Do Yourself A Favor!!! About Flight Training and Respect - Page 7

bob loblaw · March 7th, 2006, 09:38

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Originally Posted by tonyw

Technically, though, since he didn't call Bob a retard, only said picking on him was like hitting a retard, it wasn't a personal insult.

Yeah, it is a grey area..HAHAHAHAH

n57flyguy · March 7th, 2006, 09:45

Why do we always get way off topic????

Stone Cold · March 7th, 2006, 11:51

Hey Victor, JH both of y'all knock it off already. Enough is enough. Grow up, both of you.

TX

hattrick · March 7th, 2006, 12:33

honestly guys someones got to be the bigger man here and grow up. we are all adults here (well most of us) dont you think its time we started acting like it

tonyw · March 7th, 2006, 12:42

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Originally Posted by bob loblaw

Yeah, it is a grey area..HAHAHAHAH

Did Jimbo call you a retard? No, he did not.

Flying Ninja · March 7th, 2006, 13:47

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Originally Posted by Captain A

This CAPT program is a total rip off....so again DON'T DO IT!

Hi Captain A, your post was great! I only wish I met someone like you before I sank my battleship (with all my money) into CAPT. Now that I went through 6.5 pages of this thread, I can finally breathe and answer a question or two. Several people mentioned that they don't know what these kids are thinking signing up for these fast track programs. I can tell you what I was thinking.

I got my PVT back in 12/03 and loved my training. This flying thing was way cool, especially since I've always been fascinated by it since I was 3. After I got my PVT, I was flying cross countries every weekend and thought wouldn't it be great to get paid to do this instead of me shelling out money on an hourly basis? So began the search for the aviation career path.

I got caught up with the excitement of flying and when CAPT told me that it was doable for me to become a pilot, I started the paperwork. I did some research and spoke to my CFI about it and he basically told me not to turn love into a career. I should have listened to him. I was especially concerned with the 550 hours of "flight experience" that CAPT stated on their website at the time. At the time, I thought, this is Embry-Riddle. They're world reknowned for flight training. They must know what they're doing. And because I was 32 at the time, I thought time was against me with a commercial airline career. The prospect of not having to go through the CFI path was very attractive. I also got sold on the fact that they had these new DA40s with GPS and TCAS on them. They also mentioned they're upgrading them to full glass panels. And they were getting the DA42s very shortly. With all this great equipment, and that full motion simulator, I figured, they must know what they're doing with all this equipment. (Incidentally, DA40s were never upgrades, the DA42 were never on the flight line.)

To make a long story short, the program was supposed to be 10-12 months. I graduated in 18. They took their sweet a$$ time (5+ weeks) to even get my class' resumes together after graduation. Skipped out on our interview prep class, and managed to get people who graduated after us hired. To-date, only 1 of 6 people in my class has been hired, and only because he didn't want to wait for ASA anymore and the prospect of going to Pinnacle was not an attractive one (and I don't blame him for that whatsoever).

Bottom line, hind sight being 20/20, Captain A is right on. Never entertain these programs. I can't speak to the other programs out there, but they are only interested in making money. They got mine. Don't let them get yours.

The problem? How do you communicate these real world experiences to those people who didn't know any better, have no Internet access or don't know about the existence of these message boards (I didn't when I did my research)? So as long as there are these programs out there, there will always be someone going to it. It's absolutely imperative that people who know CFIs to educate them on this real world problem so that they can educate their students.

Grabo172 · March 7th, 2006, 14:04

jrh · March 7th, 2006, 14:14

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Originally Posted by Flying Ninja

The problem? How do you communicate these real world experiences to those people who didn't know any better, have no Internet access or don't know about the existence of these message boards (I didn't when I did my research)? So as long as there are these programs out there, there will always be someone going to it. It's absolutely imperative that people who know CFIs to educate them on this real world problem so that they can educate their students.

I think you already answered your own question. Your CFI advised you not to do it, but you didn't listen to him. You got caught up in the marketing. Not that I'm blaming you. It could have happened to anybody.

My point is that no matter how much education there is, not everybody will listen.

I don't know how to solve the problem.

Flying Ninja · March 7th, 2006, 14:43

Actually, my CFI said only that. Now, if he told me about how I should look at my training and the expenses involved, as well as the initial return on investment (minor point), and the hassles of domiciles, commuting, and all that, well...that would have been another story. So it is still down to educating CFI so they can educate students.

bob loblaw · March 7th, 2006, 15:25

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Originally Posted by tonyw

Did Jimbo call you a retard? No, he did not.

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Originally Posted by tonyw
Technically, though, since he didn't call Bob a retard, only said picking on him was like hitting a retard, it wasn't a personal insult.

Yeah, it is a grey area..HAHAHAHAH

This is a joke refering to grey matter, not a gray area.

Wild_Weasel · March 7th, 2006, 18:40

What the heck happened to this thread?!? It was actually interesting up until around page 5 when "Bob Loblaw's" avatar seemed to fill up every page with worthless rubbish.

Kristie · March 7th, 2006, 23:06

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Originally Posted by caliginousface

LOVE it!

Bandit_Driver · March 8th, 2006, 10:34

Well said Flying Ninja.

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March 7th, 2006, 11:51	#153
Stone Cold Old Skool Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: SE US & Kiev Posts: 3,038	Hey Victor, JH both of y'all knock it off already. Enough is enough. Grow up, both of you. TX

March 7th, 2006, 12:33	#154
hattrick Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: farther north than the rest of you Posts: 313	honestly guys someones got to be the bigger man here and grow up. we are all adults here (well most of us) dont you think its time we started acting like it

March 7th, 2006, 14:43	#159
Flying Ninja Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NY Posts: 120	Actually, my CFI said only that. Now, if he told me about how I should look at my training and the expenses involved, as well as the initial return on investment (minor point), and the hassles of domiciles, commuting, and all that, well...that would have been another story. So it is still down to educating CFI so they can educate students.

March 7th, 2006, 18:40	#161
Wild_Weasel Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: UND Posts: 208	What the heck happened to this thread?!? It was actually interesting up until around page 5 when "Bob Loblaw's" avatar seemed to fill up every page with worthless rubbish.