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Old January 10th, 2008, 11:03   #1
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Handle the new AD on the Robinson blades. It states that a ppl or above must note the maitenance log books for a blade inspection before EVERY flight. This means that solo students would have to find a certificated pilot to sign the log books. How is that going to work? Would you sign the log books for a aircraft you never have seen before?
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Old January 14th, 2008, 21:11   #2
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Not a helo pilot but I'll take a SWAG at it

I would get a CFI at the school to do a blade inspection as well as do mine and have him/her sign the book
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Handle the new AD on the Robinson blades. It states that a ppl or above must note the maitenance log books for a blade inspection before EVERY flight. This means that solo students would have to find a certificated pilot to sign the log books. How is that going to work? Would you sign the log books for a aircraft you never have seen before?
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That sounds like a pain, bro.
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Old January 15th, 2008, 08:19   #4
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It is not so much the airport I am worried about. It is when I send students cross country. Would you sign the aircraft records for some strange pilot saying you did a blade inspection for them. What if noone is there to sign? Now they get into an incident; are they flying an aircraft that is not airworthy?
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It is not so much the airport I am worried about. It is when I send students cross country. Would you sign the aircraft records for some strange pilot saying you did a blade inspection for them. What if noone is there to sign? Now they get into an incident; are they flying an aircraft that is not airworthy?
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Call the FAA or Robinson....
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I'd fly a Schweizer. Safest training aircraft ever built.
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I'd fly a Schweizer. Safest training aircraft ever built.
Debateable, there's always going to be two sides to the story. One thing, there are more opportunites with Robsinson helos than there are Schweizer helos.

It's all personal preference, I myself, am a Robinson guy.
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Debateable, there's always going to be two sides to the story. One thing, there are more opportunites with Robsinson helos than there are Schweizer helos.

It's all personal preference, I myself, am a Robinson guy.
Not really if you look at the numbers (safety, not opportunites). At one time, if I recall correctly, the Schweizer fleet went something like 100,000 hours without a fatal accident. If I recall this was in the early 90's and was written up in AOPA and some of the helicopter magazines (such as Rotor and Wing). It was an unprecedented milestone that no other training aircraft, fixed wing or rotory wing has ever surpassed.
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But look at the timeframe. Were those models built by Hughes or Schweizer? I believe the quality of the 300 degraded considerably when they were purchased. One other thing to look at is in the time frame in which the study was being done. During that time the confined/ pinnacle operations and 180 auto were not part of the private pilot PTS as they are now. During this time the number of hours flown by the 22 started to eclipse the 300 and the accident rate went higher still. I think these days they are about equal per flight hour.
Please do not think I am trying to argue, these are just some things to consider when looking at the information as a whole. I do like the 300 and would like to fly them more but my paycheck is derived from the use of the 22. I think both helicopters have their place in the world and wish they were more used in adjunct to each other. It should be noted too that I feel Robinson quality is starting to degrade as well. We have gotten 4 new aircraft from them this year and have had a laundry list of problems with them.
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