Another dream aircraft thread

RynoB · May 14th, 2006, 13:29

We've all seen the threads about what is your dream aircraft to fly. Here is one for the helo guys and gals. What is your dream helicopter to fly.

Mine is probably the Bell 407 or 430.

Fixed wingers can answer too. After all, I just have 5 hours of dual in a Robbie.

n57flyguy · May 14th, 2006, 13:43

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Originally Posted by RynoB

We've all seen the threads about what is your dream aircraft to fly. Here is one for the helo guys and gals. What is your dream helicopter to fly.

Mine is probably the Bell 407 or 430.

Fixed wingers can answer too. After all, I just have 5 hours of dual in a Robbie.

V-22

A bell 430 is my avatar!!!

meritflyer · May 14th, 2006, 14:39

A Robinson 44

Longhaul · May 14th, 2006, 15:01

S-76C++

Ian J · May 14th, 2006, 15:50

Dauphine or a MD600 NOTAR.

Stone Cold · May 14th, 2006, 16:19

Speaking of the V-22, and a total thread hijack, what do you guys/gals think of it? I mean, it's been in development for how many decades now??? Do you consider it a helo, or more fixed wing, and how would you log it? Just curious.

My dream, since it's open to us fixed wing guys is the Hind. That just looks like a mean machine.

Ian J · May 14th, 2006, 17:32

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Originally Posted by txpilot

Speaking of the V-22, and a total thread hijack, what do you guys/gals think of it? I mean, it's been in development for how many decades now??? Do you consider it a helo, or more fixed wing, and how would you log it? Just curious.

My dream, since it's open to us fixed wing guys is the Hind. That just looks like a mean machine.

Man, I don't know. I would be wary of that thing belonging to the fixed-wing community. I think it's a definate example of something that people would need to be dual rated to get in too. And until it has a proven safety record, I wouldn't touch it.

As of how to log it... great question! I have no flippin' idea. Maybe when you're hovering lof it helo and flying log it AMEL. Or pick and choose depending on what you need? Or more likely, they come out with a whole new category and class.

cmsuav8r · May 14th, 2006, 18:21

definately a huey... although we had an apache land at our open house, and I must say that that thing was smokin' hot! I love how the gun is synced to the pilots head

RynoB · May 14th, 2006, 20:00

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Originally Posted by ChinookDriver

Man, I don't know. I would be wary of that thing belonging to the fixed-wing community. I think it's a definate example of something that people would need to be dual rated to get in too. And until it has a proven safety record, I wouldn't touch it.

As of how to log it... great question! I have no flippin' idea. Maybe when you're hovering lof it helo and flying log it AMEL. Or pick and choose depending on what you need? Or more likely, they come out with a whole new category and class.

Isn't that the powered lift rating? I never knew what powered lift was, but since the feds group it with rotors I assumed it was for tiltrotors and the like.

FAR part 1:

"Powered-lift means a heavier-than-air aircraft capable of vertical takeoff, vertical landing, and low speed flight that depends principally on engine-driven lift devices or engine thrust for lift during these flight regimes and on nonrotating airfoil(s) for lift during horizontal flight."

And to answer the question, I think the V-22 will be a great aircraft. It is just new technology and takes a while to work out the bugs with something that complex. I saw an artists rendition of an aircraft that Boeing was thinking of building. It looked like a C-130 with 4 turbines and no tail, but was a tilt-rotor. They called it the Advanced Theater Transport. It can't take of or land vertically but can use strips as short as 750 feet.

n57flyguy · May 15th, 2006, 06:35

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Originally Posted by RynoB

Isn't that the powered lift rating? I never knew what powered lift was, but since the feds group it with rotors I assumed it was for tiltrotors and the like.

FAR part 1:

"Powered-lift means a heavier-than-air aircraft capable of vertical takeoff, vertical landing, and low speed flight that depends principally on engine-driven lift devices or engine thrust for lift during these flight regimes and on nonrotating airfoil(s) for lift during horizontal flight."

And to answer the question, I think the V-22 will be a great aircraft. It is just new technology and takes a while to work out the bugs with something that complex. I saw an artists rendition of an aircraft that Boeing was thinking of building. It looked like a C-130 with 4 turbines and no tail, but was a tilt-rotor. They called it the Advanced Theater Transport. It can't take of or land vertically but can use strips as short as 750 feet.

Check out the Bell one, its for corporate under the thread "this thing is sweet"

Ian J · May 15th, 2006, 09:19

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Originally Posted by RynoB

Isn't that the powered lift rating? I never knew what powered lift was, but since the feds group it with rotors I assumed it was for tiltrotors and the like.

FAR part 1:

"Powered-lift means a heavier-than-air aircraft capable of vertical takeoff, vertical landing, and low speed flight that depends principally on engine-driven lift devices or engine thrust for lift during these flight regimes and on nonrotating airfoil(s) for lift during horizontal flight."

And to answer the question, I think the V-22 will be a great aircraft. It is just new technology and takes a while to work out the bugs with something that complex. I saw an artists rendition of an aircraft that Boeing was thinking of building. It looked like a C-130 with 4 turbines and no tail, but was a tilt-rotor. They called it the Advanced Theater Transport. It can't take of or land vertically but can use strips as short as 750 feet.

I always wondered what powered lift was... I guess that makes sense!

Stone Cold · May 15th, 2006, 15:40

RynoB,

Thanks for the info. I never looked up what they considered powered lift. Sounds like that is where it would go. I am assuming that is going to be the new wave of aircraft, since so much R & D has been going into it over the last 20 years or so.

scottyboy75 · May 15th, 2006, 19:18

I like some of the European birds my dream is to fly an Alouette III. In my mind nothing better. She can fly high, hot, and heavy.

UH60driver · May 15th, 2006, 20:30

I think a robbie 44 parked in my yard will do. Small enough to fit in a couple of acres of land, big enough to carry my family, and quiet enough for the neighborhood.

scottyboy75 · May 15th, 2006, 22:53

Actually during start up the 44 is louder than the Bell 430. (this is based on an unscinetific poll I conducted on the ramp) I watched Airmed startup next to our 44.

UH60driver · May 15th, 2006, 23:43

Really, I would have thought it was quieter. Still, it doesn't get as loud as other helicopters... Chinook for example ha ha ha.

scottyboy75 · May 15th, 2006, 23:48

Yeah, it is not really a fair comparison. The 430 is really quiet. The tail rotor is about the loudest thing on it.

Ian J · May 16th, 2006, 08:47

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Originally Posted by UH60driver

Really, I would have thought it was quieter. Still, it doesn't get as loud as other helicopters... Chinook for example ha ha ha.

Oh no no... the Chinook has a "stealth" switch just like AirWolf did.

n57flyguy · May 16th, 2006, 09:20

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Originally Posted by ChinookDriver

Oh no no... the Chinook has a "stealth" switch just like AirWolf did.

Beastly!!! I love the sound of helos.

Yo, pick me up in a chinook at school, Ill be the coolest kid around, then take me up to NY and give me some instruction!

Ian J · May 16th, 2006, 09:24

Or was it "whisper" mode? Maybe that was Blue Thunder.

n57flyguy · May 16th, 2006, 09:26

you tell us

Ian J · May 16th, 2006, 09:28

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Originally Posted by n57flyguy

Beastly!!! I love the sound of helos.

Yo, pick me up in a chinook at school, Ill be the coolest kid around, then take me up to NY and give me some instruction!

Okay... the first step would be for you to turn 17. Then the next step would be for you to enliust in the Army. Then you could get all the Chinook rides you want.

Actually, I have a hard enough time getting myself on a Chinook these days.

n57flyguy · May 16th, 2006, 09:30

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Originally Posted by ChinookDriver

Okay... the first step would be for you to turn 17. Then the next step would be for you to enliust in the Army. Then you could get all the Chinook rides you want.

Actually, I have a hard enough time getting myself on a Chinook these days.

Okay, I definitely dont have enough time for that. WHy is it hard for you to fly in them now?

Ian J · May 16th, 2006, 09:31

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Originally Posted by n57flyguy

Okay, I definitely dont have enough time for that. WHy is it hard for you to fly in them now?

Because I'm an ROTC instructor for the next 2 1/2 years... no Chinook flying until then.

n57flyguy · May 16th, 2006, 10:14

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Originally Posted by ChinookDriver

Because I'm an ROTC instructor for the next 2 1/2 years... no Chinook flying until then.

What are you instructing in now? sorry, dont know anythign about the ROTC thing.

May 14th, 2006, 13:29	#1
RynoB Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bixby, OK Posts: 751	Another dream aircraft thread We've all seen the threads about what is your dream aircraft to fly. Here is one for the helo guys and gals. What is your dream helicopter to fly. Mine is probably the Bell 407 or 430. Fixed wingers can answer too. After all, I just have 5 hours of dual in a Robbie. __________________ Ryan ATP (CE525, CE510, BE-300), SIC BE-400, CFI, CFII, MEI, AGI, IGI States I've landed in:

May 14th, 2006, 14:39	#3
meritflyer Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Winchestertonfieldville Posts: 7,588	Re: Another dream aircraft thread A Robinson 44 __________________ The simplest answer tends to be correct.

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Longhaul Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 30	Re: Another dream aircraft thread S-76C++

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Ian J Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hartford, CT Posts: 7,854	Re: Another dream aircraft thread Dauphine or a MD600 NOTAR. __________________ "All the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting." - George Orwell

May 14th, 2006, 16:19	#6
Stone Cold Old Skool Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: SE US & Kiev Posts: 3,580	Re: Another dream aircraft thread Speaking of the V-22, and a total thread hijack, what do you guys/gals think of it? I mean, it's been in development for how many decades now??? Do you consider it a helo, or more fixed wing, and how would you log it? Just curious. My dream, since it's open to us fixed wing guys is the Hind. That just looks like a mean machine.

May 14th, 2006, 18:21	#8
cmsuav8r Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Warrensburg, MO/ KC, MO Posts: 700	Re: Another dream aircraft thread definately a huey... although we had an apache land at our open house, and I must say that that thing was smokin' hot! I love how the gun is synced to the pilots head __________________ B.S. Flight Ops Mgmt - Magna Cum Laude M.S. Aviation Safety - Summa Cum Laude 07/07/09 - PUBNAT 8 (come on lucky 7's!!!) 10/22/09 - ATSAT - (100, WQ) Exploring other employment opportunities lol

May 15th, 2006, 15:40	#12
Stone Cold Old Skool Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: SE US & Kiev Posts: 3,580	Re: Another dream aircraft thread RynoB, Thanks for the info. I never looked up what they considered powered lift. Sounds like that is where it would go. I am assuming that is going to be the new wave of aircraft, since so much R & D has been going into it over the last 20 years or so.

May 15th, 2006, 19:18	#13
scottyboy75 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: SLC Posts: 872	Re: Another dream aircraft thread I like some of the European birds my dream is to fly an Alouette III. In my mind nothing better. She can fly high, hot, and heavy. __________________ Comm Rotorcraft CFI, CFII Rotorcraft

May 15th, 2006, 20:30	#14
UH60driver Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 126	Re: Another dream aircraft thread I think a robbie 44 parked in my yard will do. Small enough to fit in a couple of acres of land, big enough to carry my family, and quiet enough for the neighborhood.

May 15th, 2006, 22:53	#15
scottyboy75 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: SLC Posts: 872	Re: Another dream aircraft thread Actually during start up the 44 is louder than the Bell 430. (this is based on an unscinetific poll I conducted on the ramp) I watched Airmed startup next to our 44. __________________ Comm Rotorcraft CFI, CFII Rotorcraft

May 15th, 2006, 23:43	#16
UH60driver Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 126	Re: Another dream aircraft thread Really, I would have thought it was quieter. Still, it doesn't get as loud as other helicopters... Chinook for example ha ha ha.

May 15th, 2006, 23:48	#17
scottyboy75 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: SLC Posts: 872	Re: Another dream aircraft thread Yeah, it is not really a fair comparison. The 430 is really quiet. The tail rotor is about the loudest thing on it. __________________ Comm Rotorcraft CFI, CFII Rotorcraft

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Ian J Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hartford, CT Posts: 7,854	Re: Another dream aircraft thread Or was it "whisper" mode? Maybe that was Blue Thunder. __________________ "All the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting." - George Orwell

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