Tab Express - Page 2

moxiepilot · September 15th, 2004, 09:42

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I just remembered the 121 because it really stood out. Different from other places. So I just checked up on it.

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They seem to be different. What I heard, but can not verify because I wouldn't even begin to know who to talk to is:

They got certified 135 because 121 would have taken them a lot more money and a lot more time. The guy who runs the operation wants to get things running.

They had a lot of difficulty getting 135 cert because of other Florida ventures by other companies misleading the FAA. This in turn put egg on the face of the FAA and they had been quite hesitant to give the go ahead to any company wanting to start up operations.

Now, also what I heard, is that TAB can start to book flights because they did get certified. Good luck to them in staying in the air [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

They seem to be an interesting venture to follow, but IMHO if they don't start flying soon - like within the next 3 months - they're not going to be running an airline.

-mox

Bog · September 15th, 2004, 10:37

All the more reason not to give them any of your money.

yankee_one · September 15th, 2004, 10:42

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They had a lot of difficulty getting 135 cert because of other Florida ventures by other companies misleading the FAA. This in turn put egg on the face of the FAA and they had been quite hesitant to give the go ahead to any company wanting to start up operations.

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Or maybe they had difficulty getting the 135 cert becuase other Florda Ventures IE: DISCOVERY AIR, that the same person, Mitch Mitchelson, was a founder of, took the money out of the pockets of the poor ATA Students that got shafted.

BE90_Driver · November 2nd, 2004, 01:19

Well in case anyone was wondering we sent 6 applicants to American Eagle. Two washed out in initial interview - one in the sim and one on the technical. Both good pilots and were invited back when polished up (I dont want it to sound like I am bashing anyone here because I am not). Four made it into the FO program. Of that one resigned during the sim phase, one left before IOE began and two made it to the line.

Subsequently I wouldn't believe the "Bridge program." It no longer exists as of August 10. Sent out emails inquiring on the next steps since I had been out of the TAB program for a while. Got my 500TT only to get a polite email from Colette (HR for Eagle) informing me of the news. Same-same about Colgan Air. I had to find this out from the HR representatives of both of our suposed "bridge programs". Nothing was ever mentioned about this from TAB to its graduates. Go figure.

Just thought you'd all like to know in case anyone is still thinking of attending their program.

Windchill · November 4th, 2004, 22:41

Sorry to hear about your situation. I hope things turn out better for you down the road.

BE90_Driver · November 6th, 2004, 03:18

It will all be fine. XJT actually hires at 600. And from what I have been told Colgan seems to have a beef with some of our people. It's not their piloting skills, it's the fact that some have left before upgrading after a year. Here's the thing, if you ask someone to sign a year contract and they leave upon completion of it...why is that bad? If you want us around and you know it's two years to upgrade then restructure the darn thing. I cannot blame anyone for trying to make the best life for themselves, can you?

Thanks for the kind words and it was Claudette at Eagle (my bad, way too much ATP studying!)

Doug Taylor · November 6th, 2004, 10:19

Primarily one of the reasons why I say to chose a flight school for quality training first and foremost. So when bridge and 'guaranteed'-type programs get cancelled, delayed or dissolved, you're not stuck with having paid a large premium for your certificates and ratings.

Quality first. But umm, people don't listen to me anyway!

SteveC · November 6th, 2004, 22:55

[ QUOTE ]
Primarily one of the reasons why I say to chose a flight school for quality training first and foremost. So when bridge and 'guaranteed'-type programs get cancelled, delayed or dissolved, you're not stuck with having paid a large premium for your certificates and ratings.

Quality first. But umm, people don't listen to me anyway!

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Hmmmm............hmmmmm............hmm...hmmm

Huh?

What?

Were you saying something?

Doug Taylor · November 8th, 2004, 00:11

Precisamundo!

Methinks I'm just here for comic relief anyhoo.

September 15th, 2004, 09:42	#26
moxiepilot Old Skool Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: CFI / CFII in PA Posts: 2,712	Re: Tab Express [ QUOTE ] I just remembered the 121 because it really stood out. Different from other places. So I just checked up on it. [/ QUOTE ] They seem to be different. What I heard, but can not verify because I wouldn't even begin to know who to talk to is: They got certified 135 because 121 would have taken them a lot more money and a lot more time. The guy who runs the operation wants to get things running. They had a lot of difficulty getting 135 cert because of other Florida ventures by other companies misleading the FAA. This in turn put egg on the face of the FAA and they had been quite hesitant to give the go ahead to any company wanting to start up operations. Now, also what I heard, is that TAB can start to book flights because they did get certified. Good luck to them in staying in the air [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] They seem to be an interesting venture to follow, but IMHO if they don't start flying soon - like within the next 3 months - they're not going to be running an airline. -mox

September 15th, 2004, 10:37	#27
Bog Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,170	Re: Tab Express All the more reason not to give them any of your money.

September 15th, 2004, 10:42	#28
yankee_one Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Deltona, Florida Posts: 286	Re: Tab Express [ QUOTE ] They had a lot of difficulty getting 135 cert because of other Florida ventures by other companies misleading the FAA. This in turn put egg on the face of the FAA and they had been quite hesitant to give the go ahead to any company wanting to start up operations. [/ QUOTE ] Or maybe they had difficulty getting the 135 cert becuase other Florda Ventures IE: DISCOVERY AIR, that the same person, Mitch Mitchelson, was a founder of, took the money out of the pockets of the poor ATA Students that got shafted.

November 2nd, 2004, 01:19	#29
BE90_Driver Newbie Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 7	Re: Tab Express Well in case anyone was wondering we sent 6 applicants to American Eagle. Two washed out in initial interview - one in the sim and one on the technical. Both good pilots and were invited back when polished up (I dont want it to sound like I am bashing anyone here because I am not). Four made it into the FO program. Of that one resigned during the sim phase, one left before IOE began and two made it to the line. Subsequently I wouldn't believe the "Bridge program." It no longer exists as of August 10. Sent out emails inquiring on the next steps since I had been out of the TAB program for a while. Got my 500TT only to get a polite email from Colette (HR for Eagle) informing me of the news. Same-same about Colgan Air. I had to find this out from the HR representatives of both of our suposed "bridge programs". Nothing was ever mentioned about this from TAB to its graduates. Go figure. Just thought you'd all like to know in case anyone is still thinking of attending their program.

November 4th, 2004, 22:41	#30
Windchill Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-Atlantic, KMRB Posts: 1,925	Re: Tab Express Sorry to hear about your situation. I hope things turn out better for you down the road.

November 6th, 2004, 03:18	#31
BE90_Driver Newbie Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 7	Re: Tab Express It will all be fine. XJT actually hires at 600. And from what I have been told Colgan seems to have a beef with some of our people. It's not their piloting skills, it's the fact that some have left before upgrading after a year. Here's the thing, if you ask someone to sign a year contract and they leave upon completion of it...why is that bad? If you want us around and you know it's two years to upgrade then restructure the darn thing. I cannot blame anyone for trying to make the best life for themselves, can you? Thanks for the kind words and it was Claudette at Eagle (my bad, way too much ATP studying!)

November 6th, 2004, 10:19	#32
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 41,192 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Tab Express Primarily one of the reasons why I say to chose a flight school for quality training first and foremost. So when bridge and 'guaranteed'-type programs get cancelled, delayed or dissolved, you're not stuck with having paid a large premium for your certificates and ratings. Quality first. But umm, people don't listen to me anyway!

November 6th, 2004, 22:55	#33
SteveC Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: GRR Posts: 8,630	Re: Tab Express [ QUOTE ] Primarily one of the reasons why I say to chose a flight school for quality training first and foremost. So when bridge and 'guaranteed'-type programs get cancelled, delayed or dissolved, you're not stuck with having paid a large premium for your certificates and ratings. Quality first. But umm, people don't listen to me anyway! [/ QUOTE ] Hmmmm............hmmmmm............hmm...hmmm Huh? What? Were you saying something?

November 8th, 2004, 00:11	#34
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 41,192 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Tab Express Precisamundo! Methinks I'm just here for comic relief anyhoo.

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