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Old November 5th, 2009, 13:24   #1
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I've been instructing for about a year and a half and have accumulated much experience. I have little over 1,000TT, but much less than the new rule of 1,500 (I have a few years until I am 23 so the ATP rule isn't a concern at the moment). My current housing situation is I'm living at a friend's house paying next to nothing, and it's time I move out-he has done me a huge favor this last year and a half.

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I have only 9 units of college completed (still a freshman) after this semester and I'll be 21 years old (took 2 years of to finish my comm/cfi). I want to finish school quick and the traditional way (not online).

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1. Move home, take the max. amount of classes I can to finish up in 3 years? Get a part time job, fly 1-2 times a month to stay current?

2. Stay in my current position, find roomates on craigslist (none of my friends need a place to stay) and fly 7 days a week to make rent? On top of that take 12 units of school (4 classes). I had to drop 2 classes this semester, I couldn't keep up since I'm flying so much. The benefit is I'll have over 2k hours by the time school is done, but it will take me 4 years or even more to finish school.

Any thoughts? No 121 or 135 carrier will pick up an non-turbine experienced CFI like myself for 3-4 years more years is my guess....time to finish school and take a break on flying?
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Old November 5th, 2009, 13:28   #2
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Any thoughts? No 121 or 135 carrier will pick up an non-turbine experienced CFI like myself for 3-4 years more years is my guess....time to finish school and take a break on flying?
There are lots of 135 operators that dont fly turbine equipment so finding a 135 job with no turbine shouldn't be your issue. I would continue to fly and work on school. You can go to a actual school but still do some classes online. I am working on my masters degree through kent state and I take classes online as well as some classes in a actual class. By taking half your classes online it allows you to only be at the school for two days a week for a few hours which allows you to keep flying!
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Old November 5th, 2009, 13:29   #3
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Old November 5th, 2009, 13:32   #4
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about 50multi...not enough money to get an MEI at this point
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check your PM's. not sure what their min's are
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I strongly urge you to finish school and implore you not to study "professional aeronautics" (whatever that is).

That said, I was hired at Flight Express without any kind of a multi rating. I finally got one after a little over a year of flying a 210 and was being paid (fairly well, too) to fly a Baron the next week. It definitely saved me a lot of heartache (and money).
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Old November 5th, 2009, 14:13   #7
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As much as I understand the need to "get ahead" in aviation (of which, I would argue currently, has absolutely zero end result), I would not trade my time in college (real college) for anything.

I would go home, enroll in a real school, finish a degree (and not in in aviation), and fly when you can to stay current. I think the best thing to do in this economy is go to school, and I'm considering finishing my MBA while the economy is down.
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Education is the most important thing, in my book.

Home have an airport? Maybe pick up just one student while you are full time.
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I have little over 1,000TT, but much less than the new rule of 1,500 (I have a few years until I am 23 so the ATP rule isn't a concern at the moment).
What new rule? The new rule that hasn't even passed the Senate? That isn't even a law, yet? So far, nothing has passed or become a law. People need to chill out....
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Old November 6th, 2009, 00:47   #11
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yea school for me will be the traditional way and most likely in history...I've never really wanted a degree in aviation, I need a back up plan (hope I'll never have to resort to it, I love flying for a living). thanks for everyone's thoughs
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I've been on this forum for just a short time, but if I could magically "draft" anyone of you to fly with me based on what I've "heard" from you on postings and what I know of your background and experience level, I would "draft" Boris hands down over anyone else here.

I like his attitude, his disdain for the "drama queens" that quite a few of you seem to be and most importantly, his experience flying canceled checks in an MU-2. He's proven that he has what it takes by not getting fired for missing deadlines and most importantly, not getting killed, flying a more demanding aircraft around in conditions that most of you wouldn't think of flying through.

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I've been on this forum for just a short time, but if I could magically "draft" anyone of you to fly with me based on what I've "heard" from you on postings and what I know of your background and experience level, I would "draft" Boris hands down over anyone else here.

I like his attitude, his disdain for the "drama queens" that quite a few of you seem to be and most importantly, his experience flying canceled checks in an MU-2. He's proven that he has what it takes by not getting fired for missing deadlines and most importantly, not getting killed, flying a more demanding aircraft around in conditions that most of you wouldn't think of flying through.
A sense of humor goes a long way in the cockpit as well

I'd fly with Boris too...if he'd have me
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Go to school and live with your parents. There's no hurry to get a 121 job, anyways. I attend a 4 year university full time, work part time, and still manage to fly 6-7 hours a week.
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I've been on this forum for just a short time, but if I could magically "draft" anyone of you to fly with me based on what I've "heard" from you on postings and what I know of your background and experience level, I would "draft" Boris hands down over anyone else here.

I like his attitude, his disdain for the "drama queens" that quite a few of you seem to be and most importantly, his experience flying canceled checks in an MU-2. He's proven that he has what it takes by not getting fired for missing deadlines and most importantly, not getting killed, flying a more demanding aircraft around in conditions that most of you wouldn't think of flying through.
Boris has it easy with the MU-2 and it's power available. Back in my 135 cargo days, starting with the Cherokee 6 and the Chieftain, no matter how powerful the aircraft, the outstation always managed to keep the aircraft loaded to the hilt, negating any advantage I would've had.
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Hi kh15... I was more or less in your shoes 4-5yrs ago and did option 2. Worked great for me, and when an opportunity came up I transferred my credits online. Obviously the industry is different now and neither option is better or worse, just different.

If you want to finish school the quick and traditional way, without doing it online as you said, well to me it sounds like you've already answered your own question.
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Boris has it easy with the MU-2 and it's power available. Back in my 135 cargo days, starting with the Cherokee 6 and the Chieftain, no matter how powerful the aircraft, the outstation always managed to keep the aircraft loaded to the hilt, negating any advantage I would've had.

Know exactly what you mean having flown 135 freight in piston twins too. Mike, your background IMHO, is ideal for what I'd like to see. Civilian freight and military flight training is a hard combo to top.
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Boris has it easy with the MU-2 and it's power available. Back in my 135 cargo days, starting with the Cherokee 6 and the Chieftain, no matter how powerful the aircraft, the outstation always managed to keep the aircraft loaded to the hilt, negating any advantage I would've had.
If he's flying the G model there is no power available.

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I found a flying club at the University of Texas and used their equipment as a freelance instructor while I finished my degree. I managed my own schedule and made about 4X/hr as I was working for FBO x. Honestly, it was pretty much ideal. I even generally had weekends off because the club booked all the planes.
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I've been on this forum for just a short time, but if I could magically "draft" anyone of you to fly with me based on what I've "heard" from you on postings and what I know of your background and experience level, I would "draft" Boris hands down over anyone else here.

I like his attitude, his disdain for the "drama queens" that quite a few of you seem to be and most importantly, his experience flying canceled checks in an MU-2. He's proven that he has what it takes by not getting fired for missing deadlines and most importantly, not getting killed, flying a more demanding aircraft around in conditions that most of you wouldn't think of flying through.
It was sarcasm.

Boris flies a Queen air now, correct?
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Boris flies a Queen air now, correct?
heh. Nice. TURBINE Queen Air, please.
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