TSA screener walks by and says...

[PCL_128]

Originally Posted by UND_Flyer

The 58-year-old homeless man was later found sleeping onboard a Trans States Airlines CRJ.

Did anybody else throw up when reading this? Trans States Airlines doesn't fly CRJs. Trans States Holdings does, with their pseudo-scab GoJet pilots.

[JetsGoWhee]

Yea I threw up in my mouth a little bit. Blah




What is going on at STL lately...lookie here: <hijack>

Originally Posted by KMOV

Doll found hanging from noose in cockpit at Lambert Airport

10:09 PM CDT on Friday, May 9, 2008

(KMOV)- A photo obtained by News 4 is the center of a case of possible racial harassment inside a U.S. Airways plane at Lambert Airport.

The picture is of a doll hanging from a noose in the cockpit.




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It all happened after a plane landed at Lambert, when a cleaning crew stepped on the plane and discovered the noose in the cockpit.

In Webster’s Dictionary on page 782, a noose is defined as a loop with a running knot that binds closer the more you pull.

But if you ask some U.S. Airways workers at Lambert, they consider a noose symbolizing a black person being hung.

That definition may help explain their reaction when they found a noose tied around the neck of a white doll.

Some U.S. Airways workers agreed to talk to News 4 on camera as long as we concealed their identities.

News 4 did and the workers told us the noose was discovered on Monday evening and that it wasn't removed until Tuesday morning.

So News 4 called U.S. Airways Friday afternoon to find out why.

A spokesperson told News 4 the noose was not racially motivated.

They said some pilots are upset about being forced to join a new union.

And that's why a pilot put up the noose and wrote the letters of the new union on the doll.

But regardless of the reason, the environment for some U.S. Airways employees has drastically changed.

A spokesperson for U.S. Airways said this issue is far from over.

They are working to identify everyone who may be involved with hanging the noose.

So far, no one has been disciplined by the company for this incident.

</hijack>

[Nick]

Originally Posted by JetsGoWhee

Yea I threw up in my mouth a little bit. Blah




What is going on at STL lately...lookie here: <hijack>
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Where I work, I flew with a guy who checked every escape rope for a noose when it was a plane we had just switched into. Part of his receiving aircraft checklist, if you will, although he often did it at cruise and not at the gate.

The company also put out a memo to all pilots basically stating to stop doing stupid stuff to emergency equipment in the cockpit and I think it was referring to the noose thing.

People are bizarre.

[PCL_128]

A noose around uSAPa? Classic. Reminds me of an old rEAL pilot I knew down in Florida. He had his own hangar where he stored some home-builts. In the corner of the hangar, hanging from the ceiling, was a noose around an original copy of the EAL SCAB list. To the best of my knowledge, it's still there today, almost two decades after the strike. Remember, pilots never forget when other pilots screw them over. A good lesson to those thinking of going to GoJet.

[WestIndian425]

Originally Posted by Nick

Where I work, I flew with a guy who checked every escape rope for a noose when it was a plane we had just switched into. Part of his receiving aircraft checklist, if you will, although he often did it at cruise and not at the gate.

The company also put out a memo to all pilots basically stating to stop doing stupid stuff to emergency equipment in the cockpit and I think it was referring to the noose thing.

People are bizarre.

Nick, I flew with the CA that reported the noose in the cockpit which sparked the priority message you mentioned. I was shocked when he told me.

[SteveC]

Originally Posted by PCL_128

Remember, pilots never forget when other pilots screw them over. A good lesson to those thinking of going to GoJet.

"Always with the negative waves Moriarty, always with the negative waves."

[PCL_128]

Originally Posted by SteveC

"Always with the negative waves Moriarty, always with the negative waves."

One of my favorite sayings:

"I never did give anybody hell. I just told them the truth and they thought it was hell." - President Harry S. Truman

[Baradium]

Originally Posted by JaceTheAce

One time I commuted home from JFK to SAN in plain clothes (way more comfortable than the sandpaper polyester/wool pants) and they wanted to take my $12 Lab Series shaving cream, Aveda shampoo and conditioner ($9 and $12 respectively) and toothpaste. I was like "oh heyell no!!!" so I went and changed into my uniform and went right through without a problem, even though I was in the jetBlue-only terminal my badge was the Piedmont badge...obviously not flying a jetBlue airplane! *DUH* (stupid TSA).

You don't need to by flying the flight to be exempt from the liquids and gels rule, just be in uniform.

You might want to review what you are allowed and not allowed to do. I'd hate to have trouble going through a checkpoint because someone (wrongly) told them that you had to be actually flying the plane to be exempt from liquids and gels in uniform.

[E_Dawg]

I dunno, they're just doing their jobs (or trying to.) They system's not great but it's not the fault of the individual screeners.

As asinine their reasons might be, you can't really get all bent out of shape when they 'catch' you with liquids when out of uniform. Either dump the liquids in advance or put on a suitcase-wrinkled penguin shirt for the few minutes it takes to get through security.

[E_Dawg]

Oh, and Tel Aviv airport security is awesome. The screeners are way too easy on the eyes, friendly and courteous, and will leave you wishing you had actually bothered to wash and fold your clothes before you threw 'em in your bag... since they'll be hand searching it as they interview you.

[Baradium]

Originally Posted by E_Dawg

I dunno, they're just doing their jobs (or trying to.) They system's not great but it's not the fault of the individual screeners.

As asinine their reasons might be, you can't really get all bent out of shape when they 'catch' you with liquids when out of uniform. Either dump the liquids in advance or put on a suitcase-wrinkled penguin shirt for the few minutes it takes to get through security.

Keep in mind that it's also against the rules to use your uniform to get through and then change out. At some airports there have been TSA folks specifically watching for that, and they can give you a lot worse penalties at that point than just taking the liquids/gels away.

It sounds like this doesn't happen too often, but I'd hate to be the one it happened to...

[tonyw]

Originally Posted by PCL_128

Use a little common sense and look the other way.

He can't.

He'll get fired.

Yes, the rules are stupid, but he didn't make them.

Kmiller, I'd be really careful about saying things that can get you in trouble on a public bulletin board.

I'm glad you do things that make sense even if it means you're bending the rules, but I'd keep quiet about it or give very little information about who you are and where you work. Know what I mean?

[EnRoute]

Hey All,

My wife is a TSO at PDX. I didn't take the time to read over all the posts, so I hope that I am not repeating that which was already said, but most like the group of TSO's were coming out of a training session. They train "believe it or not" very very often. I will not refute the fact the the officer used very poor judgment in saying what he said where he said it. Probably did it on purpose.

Idiot.

[FiveO]

I had a conversation with one of the biggest scumbags I have ever met. Turns out he is pretty high ranking with TSA. I am usually pro TSA and usually defend them when everyone is bashing them but this guy really has me wondering who they hire.

[Toria]

I, along with several others, needed to demonstrate our medical equipment to TSA recently. A group of 17 docs, mostly in scrubs, were headed overseas for humanitarian work. Some things are not "checkable" due to fragility (fine in the dirt and exposed, not so good at being slammed into the ground). Everything was required to be turned on and shown to be actual medical equipment. I am glad we had all the batteries charged fully before we departed. I am also glad we made our flight, darn ECG monitors!

[kmiller]

Originally Posted by tonyw

He can't.

He'll get fired.

Yes, the rules are stupid, but he didn't make them.

Kmiller, I'd be really careful about saying things that can get you in trouble on a public bulletin board.

I'm glad you do things that make sense even if it means you're bending the rules, but I'd keep quiet about it or give very little information about who you are and where you work. Know what I mean?

Thanks for your words, but I know how far I can and can't go with what I say here; SSI and all that stuff. I wont call it bending the rules, it's just common sense. A lot of things with TSA doesn't make any sense and it's not practical. There's a lot of TSO's that will agree with all my statements, and then there's those who are scared to talk about it.

[Maximillian_Jenius]

Originally Posted by PCL_128

Dude, you are so gay.

Lol, even I'm not thaaaaaat gay!

Sorry Jace!

[Wolfy]

The article about the doll was one of the most ridiculous I've ever read. They try so hard to make it seem like a racial issue, then just touch on the fact it had the name of a union written on it. Not a race, not a racial organization. A union. How do they pull race from that?

[Maximillian_Jenius]

Originally Posted by Wolfy

The article about the doll was one of the most ridiculous I've ever read. They try so hard to make it seem like a racial issue, then just touch on the fact it had the name of a union written on it. Not a race, not a racial organization. A union. How do they pull race from that?

Nice new avatar, makes you look tall!

[Flyin_bryan]

Originally Posted by PCL_128

This time, the Toothpaste Stealing A-hole decided that since I wasn't in uniform, the liquids would have to go. Anyway, he searches my bag and removes a can of shaving cream. After his "thorough" search, he failed to even find the tube of toothpaste, the stick of gel deodorant, and the bottle of liquid allergy medicine. I guess 1 out of 4 ain't too bad.

hahah I bet he goes home and uses your toothpaste!

[P&H]

Next time I non-rev/JS, I'm going with a naked uniform shirt. When they tell me I need to be in uniform, I'll say, "oh, oh ok. Just a second." Pull out my stripes, and proceed to slide them on, then, as I fumble with them, ask them for help saying, "can you button this for me please? Thanks."

And then, be on my way. With my contact solution, shaving cream, toothpaste, etc... all of which are so dangerous in the hands of a non-uniformed crew member.

[skydog]

Originally Posted by PCL_128

Use a little common sense and look the other way. Once I get past your checkpoint I can sit on any jumpseat, plain clothes or not, and crash the airplane without needing any fancy explosive shampoo to make it happen. Just let the crewmembers go by with their liquids.

Now I'm sure the Shrub secret police will be busting down my door any minute since I used the terms "crash the plane" and "explosive shampoo" on the internets. It was nice knowing all of you.

Use a little common sense and don't try to carry prohibited items through the checkpoint. The rules are what the rules are. It's arrogance to expect everyone else to change the way they do things in order to accomodate you. Why should they risk getting fired because you're too lazy, or don't want, to wear your uniform? What do they owe you?You're not signing their paychecks.

[P&H]

Originally Posted by skydog

Why should they risk getting fired because you're too lazy, or don't want, to wear your uniform? What do they owe you?You're not signing their paychecks.

They should bow when they see me.

[Kristie]

Originally Posted by Toria

I, along with several others, needed to demonstrate our medical equipment to TSA recently. A group of 17 docs, mostly in scrubs, were headed overseas for humanitarian work. Some things are not "checkable" due to fragility (fine in the dirt and exposed, not so good at being slammed into the ground). Everything was required to be turned on and shown to be actual medical equipment. I am glad we had all the batteries charged fully before we departed. I am also glad we made our flight, darn ECG monitors!

now i'm interested!! maybe you can post a topic in the lav about the humanitarian work you did and where that required the use of medical equipment like that?

[bartman]

Originally Posted by UND_Flyer

Homeless Man Thwarts STL Security, Found Napping On Plane

Incident Termed A 'Hiccup' By Officials
Two contract security guards at Lambert International Airport in St. Louis, MO were suspended this week, after a homeless man was found sleeping onboard a parked regional jet.

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Did anyone check to see if it was a RJ F/O? Kidding, I'm kidding. I keed, I keed.