Not Old Enough to Drink........But Fly????

[casey]

Originally Posted by Diamnd15

i got hired on at tsa and expressjet at 19... also i tried to take the atp written and they told me the minimum age to take the atp written was 21, anyone else ever heard that

if you take it prior to being 21 and dont become employed by an airline before you turn 23, it would expire before you could possibly take the ATP ride.

[Wolfy]

Originally Posted by Citationkid

I am 99% sure there is no such thing in the US. I know you can in Europe. I hope I am wrong, and if you have any more information please let me know. As for being a young pilot, the worse thing for me is not being able to rent a car on trips. Sometimes I can't even reserve a hotel room because of my age!

Alex.

I talked to a DE about it, but now I can't find any reference.

I've definitely had the rental car problem. I asked at an FBO what the age to take the crew car was, she said "21 or 25, let me check".
"Never mind, thanks though."

[v1valarob]

Originally Posted by Wolfy

I talked to a DE about it, but now I can't find any reference.

I've definitely had the rental car problem. I asked at an FBO what the age to take the crew car was, she said "21 or 25, let me check".
"Never mind, thanks though."

In Europe its called a Frozen ATPL. You can get it before you reach minimums for the license. Most airlines require it because they see you are taking your career seriously.

In the united states I am 99% sure you cannot take the ATP checkride until you are 23 and have the experience requirements. Im willing to bet that IACRA would kick back your 8710 with an error.

-Rob

[Dan208B]

Originally Posted by Wolfy

I talked to a DE about it, but now I can't find any reference.

I've definitely had the rental car problem. I asked at an FBO what the age to take the crew car was, she said "21 or 25, let me check".
"Never mind, thanks though."

Thats why you never ask.

[phoenix 23684]

Originally Posted by Diamnd15

i got hired on at tsa and expressjet at 19... also i tried to take the atp written and they told me the minimum age to take the atp written was 21, anyone else ever heard that

Yeah I used to proctor tests, here's the deal: there is no minimum age to take the ATP written, but since you have to be 23 to have an ATP and since you have to have taken a test at most 24 months prior, this is how we arrive at the magical age of 21.

Nothing in the FARs says you can't but I know CATS won't let you since they figured if you take it before 21 it won't be valid when you are eligible for your ATP. I know it doesn't expire while at a part 121, so in theory you can take it at 18 years of age get hired at a regional and it will still be good when you turn 23. Maybe if you show them proof of part 121 employment they will let you take it. I don't know about Laser Grade.

[AngelFuree]

Originally Posted by Citationkid

I am 99% sure there is no such thing in the US. I know you can in Europe. I hope I am wrong, and if you have any more information please let me know. As for being a young pilot, the worse thing for me is not being able to rent a car on trips. Sometimes I can't even reserve a hotel room because of my age!

Alex.

I hadn't heard of that until recently when I rented a hotel room. The lady was asking me for my ID. I handed it to her and then politely asked her out of curiosity what the reason was for checking my age. I didn't realize you had to be 18.....geeeez. They should do like Japan w/ "automated" love hotels. (and no, that wasn't the nature of my hotel stay, though my gf got carded too. I felt like I was entering a bar. )
I'm 21, for the record.

[Citationkid]

A lot of hotels are 19 and a few are 21. It kind of sucks when you cannot drive yourself to the hotel and then need to have your boss check in for you after you fly a million dollar plane a thousand miles!

Alex

[killbilly]

Originally Posted by Citationkid

A lot of hotels are 19 and a few are 21. It kind of sucks when you cannot drive yourself to the hotel and then need to have your boss check in for you after you fly a million dollar plane a thousand miles!

Alex

I had this problem too when I was under 25 and traveling on business trying to rent cars.

Hotels also check ID to verify that you're the credit card owner, too.

[Seggy]

After the last week I have had, the 18 year old is more mature and responsible than the 30 year old.