Where to get a FE's rating?

Pilotdude3407 · April 27th, 2008, 17:31

Ok, before I posted this, I did the SEARCH function to see what I could find, as well as google and other search engines and nothing I found helped me. A previous topic on JC a couple of years ago was close but no one actually gave any answer so I am here to ask again.

Is there a place that you can get a FE's rating without being hired into a company that have airplanes that require them? Some of you may think it is silly to want such a thing especially if I am never going to need it, and you may be right, however for right now if you have any info, humor me.

SpiraMirabilis · April 27th, 2008, 17:42

Just take the written. Thats all you need. If you're hired by a company who needs a flight engineer then you'll take the checkride during training.

Take a look at the aeronautical experience requirements on 63.37 though, its kind of weird.

Pilotdude3407 · April 27th, 2008, 18:45

No I am asking because I want one regardless.....just to say I have it. I know the requirements are weird. In fact I heard one time you have to do some of it in a real plane. Don't know if thats true.

SpiraMirabilis · April 27th, 2008, 18:52

I wouldn't recommend it. When you go to an interview and they see you have a FE rating at first their eyes will brighten up and they'll ask you: 'Oh, where were you a flight engineer for?' and when you say 'Well, I went to simuflite and paid five grand for simulator time so I could do my checkride.' they'll get this disappointed look in their face and say 'Oh. I see.'

But basically, so long as you have those requirements met you can do the checkride in a regular simulator or an approved flight engineer FTD, which I don't think there are many of these days but who knows.

UPSpilot · April 27th, 2008, 18:55

Get it in a real airplane. Go for a DC-8 FE ticket. Your biceps will thank you.

FlyOrDie · April 27th, 2008, 18:57

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Originally Posted by Pilotdude3407

No I am asking because I want one regardless.....just to say I have it. I know the requirements are weird. In fact I heard one time you have to do some of it in a real plane. Don't know if thats true.

Take the written and then you can say what score you got on it and save your money for something more productive like chasing women instead of getting your actual FE ticket that you might never even use.

Bandit_Driver · April 27th, 2008, 19:14

Just take the written and save your money. The FE position, unfortunately, is a dying position.

If you have your heart set on one you may want to call Pan Am in SFB and see if they have anything available. They are still running 2 United 727 sims.

germb747 · April 28th, 2008, 01:48

While we're discussing it, is there any place I can still get a navigator rating?

kellwolf · April 28th, 2008, 11:12

Downside to the written: it expires. There are guys at Pinnacle that have taken the written 3 times while waiting on that phone call from FedEx.

As for airlines looking down on you for getting the rating, I doubt that's very common. Might get it some places. You don't see regionals looking down on guys b/c they paid ATP money to get an ATP rating. Heck, they ENCOURAGE it.

Baradium · April 28th, 2008, 22:14

Get your written done and go to Everts. Then you can have been an FE *and* have done ops on a DC-6.

FlyOrDie · April 29th, 2008, 18:00

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Originally Posted by Baradium

Get your written done and go to Everts. Then you can have been an FE *and* have done ops on a DC-6.

Yes cause we all know there's a future for reciprocating flight engineers

Are you still down south?

Baradium · May 1st, 2008, 15:54

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Originally Posted by FlyOrDie

Yes cause we all know there's a future for reciprocating flight engineers

Are you still down south?

Be some cool stories at least.

In Memphis now... go into the sims tomorrow (Friday).

I did tell you I kind of turned my vacation time into 2 weeks notice, right?

FlyOrDie · May 1st, 2008, 19:44

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Originally Posted by Baradium

I did tell you I kind of turned my vacation time into 2 weeks notice, right?

Quality. Enjoy flying where you have sun during the winter. I hate going to the slope during the "darkness".

kellwolf · May 1st, 2008, 20:55

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Originally Posted by Baradium

Be some cool stories at least.

In Memphis now... go into the sims tomorrow (Friday).

I did tell you I kind of turned my vacation time into 2 weeks notice, right?

I'll be back up there on Saturday morning. Which sim "shift" did you wind up with?

Baradium · May 1st, 2008, 22:40

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Originally Posted by kellwolf

I'll be back up there on Saturday morning. Which sim "shift" did you wind up with?

Friday and Saturday 1600-2300.

Sunday is 2000-0300... same schedule on the next T, TH, F, S, SU

So we get to work our way into the 0300 ending time, haha.

April 27th, 2008, 17:31	#1
Pilotdude3407 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Griffin, GA Posts: 144	Where to get a FE's rating? Ok, before I posted this, I did the SEARCH function to see what I could find, as well as google and other search engines and nothing I found helped me. A previous topic on JC a couple of years ago was close but no one actually gave any answer so I am here to ask again. Is there a place that you can get a FE's rating without being hired into a company that have airplanes that require them? Some of you may think it is silly to want such a thing especially if I am never going to need it, and you may be right, however for right now if you have any info, humor me. __________________ "The only disability in life is a bad attitude." -Scott Hamilton

April 27th, 2008, 17:42	#2
SpiraMirabilis Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,435	Re: Where to get a FE's rating? Just take the written. Thats all you need. If you're hired by a company who needs a flight engineer then you'll take the checkride during training. Take a look at the aeronautical experience requirements on 63.37 though, its kind of weird. __________________ Yet Another Turboprop FO*

April 27th, 2008, 18:45	#3
Pilotdude3407 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Griffin, GA Posts: 144	Re: Where to get a FE's rating? No I am asking because I want one regardless.....just to say I have it. I know the requirements are weird. In fact I heard one time you have to do some of it in a real plane. Don't know if thats true. __________________ "The only disability in life is a bad attitude." -Scott Hamilton

April 27th, 2008, 18:52	#4
SpiraMirabilis Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,435	Re: Where to get a FE's rating? I wouldn't recommend it. When you go to an interview and they see you have a FE rating at first their eyes will brighten up and they'll ask you: 'Oh, where were you a flight engineer for?' and when you say 'Well, I went to simuflite and paid five grand for simulator time so I could do my checkride.' they'll get this disappointed look in their face and say 'Oh. I see.' But basically, so long as you have those requirements met you can do the checkride in a regular simulator or an approved flight engineer FTD, which I don't think there are many of these days but who knows. __________________ Yet Another Turboprop FO*

April 27th, 2008, 18:55	#5
UPSpilot Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SDF Posts: 107	Re: Where to get a FE's rating? Get it in a real airplane. Go for a DC-8 FE ticket. Your biceps will thank you.

April 27th, 2008, 19:14	#7
Bandit_Driver Old Skool Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DTW Posts: 1,798	Re: Where to get a FE's rating? Just take the written and save your money. The FE position, unfortunately, is a dying position. If you have your heart set on one you may want to call Pan Am in SFB and see if they have anything available. They are still running 2 United 727 sims. __________________ OOTSK Logbook Pro - Electronic Pilots Logbook

April 28th, 2008, 01:48	#8
germb747 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: San Antonio Posts: 569	Re: Where to get a FE's rating? While we're discussing it, is there any place I can still get a navigator rating?

April 28th, 2008, 11:12	#9
kellwolf Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 13,860	Re: Where to get a FE's rating? Downside to the written: it expires. There are guys at Pinnacle that have taken the written 3 times while waiting on that phone call from FedEx. As for airlines looking down on you for getting the rating, I doubt that's very common. Might get it some places. You don't see regionals looking down on guys b/c they paid ATP money to get an ATP rating. Heck, they ENCOURAGE it. __________________ "I'm The Doctor, by the way. Run for your life!"

April 28th, 2008, 22:14	#10
Baradium Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 221	Re: Where to get a FE's rating? Get your written done and go to Everts. Then you can have been an FE and have done ops on a DC-6.

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