No more Frontier flights for Republic

[BobDDuck]

[Airdale]

Aye aye aye....I really should go back to the Coast Guard. Our message boards were fun, all jokes and SAR case stories.

[SoCalAprch]

Everyone needs to go have a beer and stop worrying about stuff you can't control.

Speaking of someone that could do something about this Doug should get an Oil executive to come to NJC this year. That would be fun!!

[Airdale]

Originally Posted by SoCalAprch

Speaking of someone that could do something about this Doug should get an Oil executive to come to NJC this year. That would be fun!!

I'll have snipers in every window.

[SoCalAprch]

Originally Posted by Airdale

I'll have snipers in every window.

hehe Maybe I will start my own oil company and sell it for 1$ cheaper than everyone else.

[meyers9163]

Originally Posted by Airdale

I'll have snipers in every window.

I'd help pay some...... start a fund like Kellwolf did for the purchase of Airtran..

[Airdale]

Originally Posted by SoCalAprch

hehe Maybe I will start my own oil company and sell it for 1$ cheaper than everyone else.

Lets call it, "UP YOUR GAS" oil company.

[inside0ut]

Originally Posted by meyers9163

haha? Oh wait.... where was the humor again? RAH is becoming like ATP.... you say anything bad all of a sudden you are in the same category as a murderer...... You are the scum on the bottom of ones shoes...... Yet if you go back and read there have been great things I've said as well. perhaps again you need to go back and re read... Then feel free to PM me if you want.... Until then I'll try to find the humor again....Ah forgot... another RAH guy... you wouldnt agree...

Ahhhhh....forget it.

[Airdale]

Originally Posted by inside0ut

*sigh*

Dude, why would you want to make enemies on here? I dont like words being put in my mouth or my own opinions formed by someone else, so do me a fovor, dont say things like "Ah forgot... another RAH guy... you wouldn't agree..." unless you know me. Which you don't.

Ah..what the hell...you're just another RAH guy....you wouldn't agree...







Lets cut Meyers some slack. He's on my buddy list now.

[inside0ut]

Originally Posted by Airdale

Ah..what the hell...you're just another RAH guy....you wouldn't agree...

LOL


Man, I swear, I get a few days off and how do I spend it? Trying to "start fights" on the interweb.

I should have taken the previous comment to PMs. Thats what happens when I dont think lol.

[Airdale]

Originally Posted by inside0ut

LOL


Man, I swear, I get a few days off and how do I spend it? Trying to "start fights" on the interweb.

I should have taken the previous comment to PMs. Thats what happens when I dont think lol.

See that! Good ole intranet wars!

Its all doom and gloom everywhere you look anyway. I just got off the phone with my sim partner who was a Captain upgrade here. He says "Man, don't get all worked up over the hype on the internet. Beford wouldn't pull airplanes without having a place to park them. Just don't hold your breath this next week, you might pass out!"

I'm going to maximze my reserve time this week by doing some freshwater bass fishing.....aahhhh....

[MusketeerMan]

Originally Posted by SoCalAprch

What do you mean about the green on green thing? I think we have a waiver at CHQ.

It is fine if they hold slots for IOE but if they don't get filled they should be put into open time so line holders can have first dibs at them. Reserve isn't knowing you have a 4 day 2 weeks in advance. Thats a built up line. I hate to say it but reserve is the "Good Morning, we have a trip for you..." phone call. Not "Hi, we built up your schedule and you have a 4 day in 2 weeks then a 3 day a couple days after that..." Its a flawed system. But we shouldn't be arguing about our trip trading and reserve systems when some of our brothers at Republic are being displaced from their homes. Maybe I will just always commute, that way if and when I get displaced it won't be that big of a deal...

I agree about the arguing...but someone on the Internet was wrong!!!!!!!!!! ...but we on the RAH side do not have that waiver that allows a green/green crew. Apparently we used to have it, but according to scheduling and the check airmen I've flown with, we no longer have it.

Involving the open time issue...here's the front page of PBS when I log in:

""CMH RW7 First Officers

At this time we are anticipating the need to with hold time for IOE. At this time we do not recommend that First Officers only bid for specific trips or to fly with the IOE Checkairmen. We may be withholding some of the pairings that are awarded to IOE Captains and later assign those to be used for IOE""

I've used open time, there's still plenty out there, we just won't be able to benefit from it much until our reserve availability gets built up. I've traded 2 trips for May out of open time.

[kellwolf]

Originally Posted by Airdale

Hmmm...still looking for where I was complaining about DEN guys coming to PHL. Maybe a bit worried about what might happen to us on reserve, but who wouldn't be a bit worried about being displaced. Every DEN pilot has a right to come to PHL, I'm not complaining about that. Sure I would be pushed further from a line and that sucks, but hey, you can't have your cake and eat it too. I'd rather sit reserve for awhile longer then see our pilots get screwed.

I think he was talking about this:

Originally Posted by Airdale

Well, I started Day 1 of a 5 day Reserve week yesterday, and today I was called for an out and back and tomorrow I start a 3 day. I already have a trip assigned for next week as well blocking 20 hours. My guess is that once those guys in DEN spread out through the system, we may see a slow down. I may see more then a few months of reserve.

Based on past post during your Colgan era, I sorta took this as complaining, too. If it wasn't meant that way, we can chalk it up to the downsides of internet forums and the fact that you can read about 801 different tones into a post.

[SoCalAprch]

Originally Posted by MusketeerMan

I agree about the arguing...but someone on the Internet was wrong!!!!!!!!!! ...but we on the RAH side do not have that waiver that allows a green/green crew. Apparently we used to have it, but according to scheduling and the check airmen I've flown with, we no longer have it.

Involving the open time issue...here's the front page of PBS when I log in:

""CMH RW7 First Officers

At this time we are anticipating the need to with hold time for IOE. At this time we do not recommend that First Officers only bid for specific trips or to fly with the IOE Checkairmen. We may be withholding some of the pairings that are awarded to IOE Captains and later assign those to be used for IOE""

I've used open time, there's still plenty out there, we just won't be able to benefit from it much until our reserve availability gets built up. I've traded 2 trips for May out of open time.

We have that same thing on the Chautauqua PBS too. I don't really know how it works with the open time but I def. have my opinions on how I think it should work and this isn't it. My experience, although not much, has been bad with it because of this whole reserve staffing BS. Also my whole time on reserve I never flew a trip with an IOE captain and I had plenty of the trips that were awarded 2 weeks before the trip started.
Also I think our reserve on the 170 will get built up here pretty quickly unfortunately.

[inside0ut]

Originally Posted by SoCalAprch

We have that same thing on the Chautauqua PBS too. I don't really know how it works with the open time but I def. have my opinions on how I think it should work and this isn't it. My experience, although not much, has been bad with it because of this whole reserve staffing BS. Also my whole time on reserve I never flew a trip with an IOE captain and I had plenty of the trips that were awarded 2 weeks before the trip started.
Also I think our reserve on the 170 will get built up here pretty quickly unfortunately.

Im pretty sure that pops up on everyones PBS page.

[inside0ut]

Originally Posted by Airdale

I'm going to maximze my reserve time this week by doing some freshwater bass fishing.....aahhhh....

Which is what I should be doing too! We should have a good old fishing M&G...i wonder if everyone could get cheap licenses?

[SoCalAprch]

Originally Posted by inside0ut

Which is what I should be doing too! We should have a good old fishing M&G...i wonder if everyone could get cheap licenses?

Who needs licenses?

[inside0ut]

Originally Posted by SoCalAprch

Who needs licenses?

Haha very true, if its private lake we are all good. I know when I lived in Hampton/Va Beach you could surf fish and crab without a lic. Man I would love to go do that again......

[Soku39]

Well I must say that this is the first time that something like this has hit home for me. The instructor that I flew with for my instrument and commercial (over 2 years, we became really good friends) got hired by RAH. His class date was 4/20. Long story short 4/20, he was in STL, 4/25 he's back in Akron, picking up students to fly in the Seminole with. I don't even know what to tell him, I just feel so bad for him. This whole airline deal will really chew you up and spit you out. Back to the ole reciprocating engine for the time being it seems.

This whole recession deal is gonna be one long ride...

[Airdale]

Originally Posted by kellwolf

Originally Posted by Airdale
Well, I started Day 1 of a 5 day Reserve week yesterday, and today I was called for an out and back and tomorrow I start a 3 day. I already have a trip assigned for next week as well blocking 20 hours. My guess is that once those guys in DEN spread out through the system, we may see a slow down. I may see more then a few months of reserve.



Based on past post during your Colgan era, I sorta took this as complaining, too. If it wasn't meant that way, we can chalk it up to the downsides of internet forums and the fact that you can read about 801 different tones into a post.

Wow, if that can be viewed as complaining, then this forum really does have way too much time on their hands. Geesh...where is the line between DRINKING COOLAID and COMPLAINING.

See ya, I'm off to the lake.

[kellwolf]

Hey man. I'm trying to help ya out and let you know where they guy's coming from. It's a well known fact that things can get misconstrued on internet forums based on tone. YOU know what you meant, but OTHERS might not.

We're seeing a LOT of "my regional is less crappy than your regional," and it's got the potential to get worse as things go on. I remember when this website used to be a nice big family. Now it seems like it's a nice big DYSFUNCTIONAL family with more fighting than the Hatfields and McCoys. We've lost some good input around here b/c people just get sick of the bickering. I don't go to FI for that reason, and I've got better things to do than sift through it on here as well.

We can go back and count the "Colgan Complaining" threads if ya want, but I don't have all day. You have to give us a break if we automatically jump to the conclusion that you're in a complaining mood based on past history.

[Airdale]

Originally Posted by kellwolf

Hey man. I'm trying to help ya out and let you know where they guy's coming from. It's a well known fact that things can get misconstrued on internet forums based on tone. YOU know what you meant, but OTHERS might not.

We're seeing a LOT of "my regional is less crappy than your regional," and it's got the potential to get worse as things go on. I remember when this website used to be a nice big family. Now it seems like it's a nice big DYSFUNCTIONAL family with more fighting than the Hatfields and McCoys. We've lost some good input around here b/c people just get sick of the bickering. I don't go to FI for that reason, and I've got better things to do than sift through it on here as well.

We can go back and count the "Colgan Complaining" threads if ya want, but I don't have all day. You have to give us a break if we automatically jump to the conclusion that you're in a complaining mood based on past history.

I hear ya Kell.

When I said "My guess is that once those guys in DEN spread out through the system, we may see a slown. I may see more than a few months of reserve" , was merely meaning that I'm flying on reserve now, but that may slown down. Thats all. Nothing close to a complaint, just a fact. Now if I said "Oh now I have to sit reserve forever because of these DEN guys". Then that would be complaining. I don't mind reserve as long as I'm in PHL. The wife has a long honey-do list.

I have nothing to complain about here at RAH. Just a few worries about the current state of the industry, thats all.