Dayjets

[Craig_Davidson]

I did a search for Dayjets on this forum but didn't find any posts on them in the last year or so. Anyway i was browsing around their website yesterday and found it very interesting. I was wondering if any yall have herd anything on them? For those of you who haven't ever herd of them they are a new "Air Taxi" company in Florida flying the Eclipse 500 Jet. Their pilots supposedly work a "normal" schedule. 10 hour shift a day Monday-Friday. Ones a morning/afternoon shift, the other is afternoon/evening shift. "Home virtually every night" Mins are 3,000 hours and i herd pay starts about 50k. So what is yalls take on this?

www.dayjet.com

[Boris Badenov]

I've heard the planes are junk.

[abrutus]

Position Summary
DayJet Pilots embody the core DayJet principle of work/life balance. To be a DayJet Pilot means you’ll have a predictable work schedule that allows you to return home virtually every day, so you can build a life outside of work. It also means that when you’re on the job, you’re flying! In addition to minimal ground and wait time, you’ll be flying the industry’s newest, most advanced fleet of very light jet aircraft around, the Eclipse 500. And because our “Per-Seat, On-Demand” service is truly on-demand, no two days of flying are ever quite the same, making your job that much more interesting.

Position Location
DayJet launched service in Florida with DayBases in Boca Raton and Gainesville. Both of these locations are strategically located and prime locations to operate our initial bases of operation and, of course, great places to live.

The DayJet Work/Life Equation
Pilot quality-of-life at DayJet will surpass all other air carrier practices to date. To achieve the highest degree of flexibility in fleet availability, DayJet will assign pilots to shifts. DayJet will operate two shifts daily, Monday through Friday. Shifts will be rotated and assignments to aircraft movements will be designed to provide a fair and equitable lifestyle for every DayJet Pilot. A DayJet Pilot’s shift will begin and end at that pilot’s home base, called a DayBase™. DayBases will be small to medium in size, providing an unparalleled opportunity for pilots to build strong interaction with the company, community and each other.

Pilot Qualifications
We’re looking for motivated leaders who are committed to a culture of safety, integrity and customer service and to have fun doing it! We’re also looking for individuals who possess the ability and commitment to help mentor and develop a rapidly growing pilot rank. Because of the planned growth of the DayJet Fleet, we will be hiring to the Captain requirements in the first six (6) months before hiring to the First Officer requirements.

DayJet Pilots are responsible for the safe, consistent DayJet customer flight experience. To ensure this, DayJet Pilots must meet the minimum qualifications:
• 3,000 hours total flight time (excluding helicopter, simulator and flight engineer time)
• 1,000 hours Pilot-in-Command (PIC) time
• 1,000 hours multi-engine time
• 500 hours turbo-jet PIC time or equivalent
• Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) Airline Transport Pilot (ATP) Certification
• Current FAA First Class Medical Certificate
• Federal Communication Commission (FCC) Radio License
• Valid passport with the ability to travel in and out of the U.S.
• Valid U.S. driver’s license
• Must pass a ten (10) year background check and pre-employment drug test
Additional consideration will be given to pilots with:
• Check Airmen and/or Instructor
• Experience in EFIS equipped aircraft
• Recent flight experience

Compensation & Benefits
In addition to the attractive work/life balance, we offer a competitive compensation and benefits package.

Please apply online at http://www.dayjet.com/careers/apply.aspx and complete a profile. We will be reviewing and considering only those applicants who apply through our website.

[Craig_Davidson]

According to APC First Officer time is 1,500TT Captains 50k a year FO's 40k a year

[fly4food84]

Originally Posted by Craig_Davidson

According to APC First Officer time is 1,500TT Captains 50k a year FO's 40k a year

That's correct I spoke to a Captain last week.

They are such tiny little Eclipse jets!!

They seem to be building a reputable company. I've met a few great guys who fly for them.

[Boris Badenov]

Last I heard they were using handheld GPS and flying under VFR because the avionics don't work. No kidding.

[ladder360]

I'm not usually a grammar Nazi, but since I'm wearing a Texas Longhorns t-shirt right now I figure it's a good time to mess with an OU fan... "Herd" is a group of your cheerleaders. "Heard" is the conjugation of hearing something in the past.

[TFaudree_ERAU]

Originally Posted by Boris Badenov

Last I heard they were using handheld GPS and flying under VFR because the avionics don't work. No kidding.

I believe they finally got the IFR certification. Not sure about the handheld GPS, but I know they don't have onboard radar (XM downlink only), they're not approved for known icing and they're tiny, both up front and in the back. I sat in a cabin mockup at NBAA last year and I had to fold myself like an accordion to get in and out.

My personal opinion is that the project is set for failure, I just hope not in a tragic way. I seems to me that the Eclipse was a rush job; what other shortcuts were taken on the production line if the company can justify delivering a fleet of aircraft (to DayJet) that are not yet fully ready to do the job? It would be like Boeing delivering the super fuel efficient 787 to its launch customer even though the gear doesn't retract yet. Its a startup company, flying a brand new aircraft that is less than capable of doing the job (at this point). I'm not impressed.

[rostato]

I was thiniking of getting an A&P job with them untill I talked with the Examiner while getting my license. He was talking about how they were built on an assembly line and they are having troublr with wing alignment and other such problems. It's never good when you get a brand new plane that has its fixed aileron trim tab already deviated 4 degrees!

[Craig_Davidson]

Do you guys think its a business model that could work with different equipment?

[BCTAv8r]

I see them going in/out of BCT several times a day. So obviously there is some demand for it. But from the rumots I've heard around the airport, they're not doing too well.

[scramjet]

Originally Posted by Craig_Davidson

Do you guys think its a business model that could work with different equipment?

I think so.

I believe DayJet had originally projected that they could do a "regional" air taxi charter for around $500 cost to the customer using some type of membership plan; that's cheap. Don't quote me on that, but I believe that's what it was.

I think with a single turboprop such as the TBM, they could really make some money. But I think they operate jets partly because of the whole "jet image" thing- a jet will "sell" better to passengers than a turboprop.

[TexasFlyer]

I hope they survive since it's a great concept and niche market. But the reality of it is that I fear they will not make it. There is no possible way for the business model to turn a profit due to changes from their original business model (changes took place due to the Eclipse Jet certification process and Eclipse price and operating cost adjustments yielding a slightly different operating model and outlook from the original concept). Day Jet and Eclipse are also very dependent on one another's success, and that's hurting both companies too.

Oh, and I been in the Eclipse twice. I'm 6'2''. It was not very comfy in the rear seats. Very small aircraft!

Now, all that said. The plane would be a blast to fly. I would personally work for Dayjet and just keep my fingers crossed things work out long term and they can adjust thier business model to survive. Dayjet and Eclipse both still have solid people backing them from what I understand too. So that's a plus.

This industry is full of risk vs. reward. Flying for them is a risk if they go under since then you are out of a job. But the reward seems to be a fun place to work, a fun toy jet to fly around in, and being able to interact with your customer face to face since you are truly making a positive difference in their life. And if that puts a smile on your face at the end of the day, that's what counts.

[granlistillo]

Originally Posted by ladder360

I'm not usually a grammar Nazi, but since I'm wearing a Texas Longhorns t-shirt right now I figure it's a good time to mess with an OU fan... "Herd" is a group of your cheerleaders. "Heard" is the conjugation of hearing something in the past.

Better luck next year in Dallas.

[rostato]

Yeah once they get thier planes all in order and work out the kinks it would be fun to fly for them. It's just not the best time to work as a mechanic for them. I hope they do well. I like to see small buisness' do well.

[Maurus]

Originally Posted by TFaudree_ERAU

I believe they finally got the IFR certification. Not sure about the handheld GPS, but I know they don't have onboard radar (XM downlink only), they're not approved for known icing and they're tiny, both up front and in the back. I sat in a cabin mockup at NBAA last year and I had to fold myself like an accordion to get in and out.

My personal opinion is that the project is set for failure, I just hope not in a tragic way. I seems to me that the Eclipse was a rush job; what other shortcuts were taken on the production line if the company can justify delivering a fleet of aircraft (to DayJet) that are not yet fully ready to do the job? It would be like Boeing delivering the super fuel efficient 787 to its launch customer even though the gear doesn't retract yet. Its a startup company, flying a brand new aircraft that is less than capable of doing the job (at this point). I'm not impressed.

There is an eclipse in the FBO at KAKR. All leather seating and it does seem to have plenty of room. Looks easy to fly as well. I haven't been able to get into it though.

[ladder360]

Originally Posted by granlistillo

Better luck next year in Dallas.

Ouch!!

I sure hope so!!

[taseal]

they're based out of the airport I live near (like a mile)

I was right next to one in an archer...

my archer was bigger than the e500 lol

[Flyin_bryan]

the IPO of POGO jet has been delayed untill further notice...

[Tele_Pilot]

"Flying" magazine had about a 3 page article about their operation a month or two ago. Seems like an ok concept, whether it will work or not, is another story.