logbooks

ajn2003 · April 21st, 2008, 22:05

Okay I am 6 entries from completely filling my first logbook

I am really excited about it even though its just the little standard pilot log, but anyways I digress, what exactly should I do with it when its filled? Thanks.

Seggy · April 21st, 2008, 22:09

Make sure every page is signed, take good care of it, put it in a safe place and be ready to take it out when you get your interviews.

At interviews, they want to see ALL logbooks!

Welcome!

FBOPilot · April 21st, 2008, 22:28

ajn2003,,, congrats on the accomplishment. GUARD IT!!!
Keep the dirtyside down.

Mr.Maximus · April 21st, 2008, 23:28

Put it in a large ziplock bag then somewhere safe.

fly4food84 · April 21st, 2008, 23:54

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Originally Posted by Mr.Maximus

Put it in a large ziplock bag then somewhere safe.

I second that. Zip lock it and stick it in a safe!

SoCalPilotGuy · April 22nd, 2008, 00:02

I would also photocopy each page including sign-offs and endorsements and keep those in a completely different location. You never know when a natural disaster will happen. A little extra work up front can become a life saver in the end!

dashdriver · April 22nd, 2008, 00:21

Guard that thing with your life. Copy each page, including endorsements. Put it away in a very safe place(fire/water proof indestructable safe) One of my buddies I instructed with was working on his at work one day,and on his way home he stopped at the store. When he came out some thug broke into his car and stole his flight bag. What really sucked is he had an interview less than a week away.

minitour · April 22nd, 2008, 00:24

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Originally Posted by SoCalPilotGuy

I would also photocopy each page including sign-offs and endorsements and keep those in a completely different location. You never know when a natural disaster will happen. A little extra work up front can become a life saver in the end!

You may even want to have an electronic logbook up and running. Even if you don't use it as your primary logbook (I do, some do, some don't), if something happens to your logbook (rodents chew through it, flood, fire, theft, aliens, etc.) you'll be ready to go. I'd make electronic (scan) and hard (copy) reproductions of at least your HP, Complex, & High Altitude endorsements. I never worried about the instructor endorsements on all of my dual flights. Hasn't been a problem so far.

-mini

surreal1221 · April 22nd, 2008, 00:31

Fire proof safe. . .

Vyse · April 22nd, 2008, 00:46

This is what I shoot for:

1. Make two photocopies of logbook, including endorsements.
2. One copy in fireproof container or safe storage at home.
3. One copy offsite (bank safe deposit box, storage unit, parents house etc), preferably in a different geographical area
4. Scanned or electronic logbook copy stored online (For example, as an attachment in online mail)

SIUav8er · April 22nd, 2008, 05:33

I just trash my old logbooks.

mojo6911 · April 22nd, 2008, 10:43

1. Make photocopies in triplicate
2. Laminate said photocopies.
3. Put your logbook in a fireproof safe.
4. Freeze the safe in carbonite.
5. Bury the carbonite safe/logbook 200 feet below ground.

Nihon_Ni · April 24th, 2008, 01:38

You know that thing that the Declaration of Independence is in...?

All kidding aside, I use an excel spreadsheet as an electronic logbook to do the math for me. It doubles as my backup. I just email a copy to my work account every week or two.

minitour · April 24th, 2008, 02:16

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Originally Posted by surreal1221

Fire proof safe. . .

Just be careful when you purchase your fireproof safe. Fireproof doesn't necessarily mean water proof...which can be a bad thing if there's a fire.

-mini

BajtheJino · April 24th, 2008, 15:11

I keep mine in the desk drawer and update it every three months or so when I'm drinking.

phoenix 23684 · April 24th, 2008, 15:35

Here's an alternative. Get a logbook software and copy all your entries to it, now you will have a soft copy. I use one for Macs that you can even print on green paper and have it bonded. The plus is that after putting all my entries on it, now I have a logbook that when I print for an interview will have no errors

nbv4 · May 7th, 2008, 05:45

The modern solution to the logbook backup problem is to go digital. I recommend http://onlinelogbook.net, as it allows you to import/export your logbook data in a sane format. It also has a feature that makes "digitalizing" from paper a lot more streamlined.

Personally, I used a paper logbook up until I started Instructing. As an instructor, I realized my dinky "student" logbook was going to fill up in about 2 weeks, so instead of buying another paper logbook, I decided to go digital. I then began logging all flights into logshare.com because at the time it seemed to be the best solution. Geographical redundancy, a backup system, accessible from anywhere, easy to compile stats and totals, etc. After a I discovered onlinelogbook.net, I just imported my entire logbook over to it, since it's a better system. I don't know what I would have done had I originally digitalized with one of those "digital logbook" software thingies that don't have any way to migrate the data.

MidlifeFlyer · May 7th, 2008, 09:27

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Originally Posted by nbv4

The modern solution to the logbook backup problem is to go digital. I recommend http://onlinelogbook.net, as it allows you to import/export your logbook data in a sane format. It also has a feature that makes "digitalizing" from paper a lot more streamlined.

I'm curious why you are recommending it. I looked at the site and its apparently been around for all of 4 days. Doesn't sound like much of a history to earn a recommendation from anyone.

Also doesn't seem to be much information available, such as what that "sane" format is that your are referring to for export/import.

USMC-SGT · May 7th, 2008, 09:33

If you do not have a fireproof safe a good place for it is in a ziplock bag in the freezer. Sounds stupid but it will protect your investment from water and fire for a short while, at least more than a desk drawer. I have thought about running logbook pro as well as my paper book but with my hours now it would be way too many pages to sit down and enter. I have thought about brining LBP and my logbook to an accountant or other person for hire and showing them how to do it and having them get it done but I am the only person I would trust to get it right or maybe another pilot. Anyone want to make 25 bucks to enter 1600 hours of time into logbook pro?

HOTDOG · May 7th, 2008, 09:34

Congrats on filling up the logbook.

Like everyone else says, I'd probably stick it in some sort of safe...I would recommend a bank box.

Just curious, what type of logbook are you looking at next?...I always wondered which one I would get once my default Cessna one filled up.

nbv4 · May 7th, 2008, 10:10

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Originally Posted by MidlifeFlyer

I'm curious why you are recommending it. I looked at the site and its apparently been around for all of 4 days. Doesn't sound like much of a history to earn a recommendation from anyone.

Also doesn't seem to be much information available, such as what that "sane" format is that your are referring to for export/import.

My father uses some rinky dink digital logbook software (I can't remember the name, but it looks like it was written in 1994) that has no way to export or import data. Why spend hours and hours digitalizing your logbook only to have it 'stuck' in one application? I have no idea about Logbook Pro, but the only other logbook application that I know of that lets you migrate data is logshare, which only goes one way.

And I'm recommend it because I know the person who made it. I've been using it for the past 3 months or so and it's been wonderful so far.