Part Duex!?

[Maximillian_Jenius]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1208...2216083.html?mod=hps_us_whats_news

United Airlines & US Airway's!

[N826AW]

Article no longer exists. I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen. Though I think UA/CO is more plausible.

[Maximillian_Jenius]

Originally Posted by N826AW

Article no longer exists. I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen. Though I think UA/CO is more plausible.

People familiar with the matter said there is no merger deal already drawn up between United and Continental. But the two were expected to resume talks, said one person, following up on informal discussions in the recent months about governance, with the idea that Mr. Kellner would be CEO of the combined entity if they got together.

Other people with knowledge of the situation suggested that the two could reach an agreement on a deal in the next few weeks. That would put their proposed transaction on the same timeline for regulatory scrutiny as the Delta-Northwest deal, with an eye toward receiving clearance from the Justice Department before the White House changes hands in January. The thinking is that the government wouldn't approve one deal and block a second.

To broaden its options, though, United also is looking at a more remote possibility of buying US Airways, said one person familiar with the matter. It wouldn't be the first time. United tried to acquire US Airways in 2000 but the plan was dropped in the face of regulatory resistance.

Another person familiar with the matter said United and US Airways have been in talks about a potential merger for over a month. The companies have done "a lot of work together" on what the synergies could be and are floating around a number that could be at least as attractive as synergies in a United-Continental linkup, this person said. Those synergies would be driven by the strength of US Airways' route network in the East, this person said, adding that the synergies would also be "meaningfully higher" than the $1 billion-plus in annual revenue and cost savings number that Northwest and Delta have said they expect to generate in a merger.

[ASpilot2be]

Originally Posted by Maximillian_Jenius

People familiar with the matter said there is no merger deal already drawn up between United and Continental. But the two were expected to resume talks, said one person, following up on informal discussions in the recent months about governance, with the idea that Mr. Kellner would be CEO of the combined entity if they got together.

Other people with knowledge of the situation suggested that the two could reach an agreement on a deal in the next few weeks. That would put their proposed transaction on the same timeline for regulatory scrutiny as the Delta-Northwest deal, with an eye toward receiving clearance from the Justice Department before the White House changes hands in January. The thinking is that the government wouldn't approve one deal and block a second.

To broaden its options, though, United also is looking at a more remote possibility of buying US Airways, said one person familiar with the matter. It wouldn't be the first time. United tried to acquire US Airways in 2000 but the plan was dropped in the face of regulatory resistance.

Another person familiar with the matter said United and US Airways have been in talks about a potential merger for over a month. The companies have done "a lot of work together" on what the synergies could be and are floating around a number that could be at least as attractive as synergies in a United-Continental linkup, this person said. Those synergies would be driven by the strength of US Airways' route network in the East, this person said, adding that the synergies would also be "meaningfully higher" than the $1 billion-plus in annual revenue and cost savings number that Northwest and Delta have said they expect to generate in a merger.

Now it is readable.

[Maximillian_Jenius]

Originally Posted by ASpilot2be

Now it is readable.

Thanks...

[mrivc211]

just to show the love i have for CEO's, I'd like to write the word synergy on a piece of paper, crumple it up, and stick it up his rear. That surely bring a smile to his face. These clowns can't get the amer west/ airways merger in order and theyre already scheming the next one.

[ILSstud]

Originally Posted by mrivc211

just to show the love i have for CEO's, I'd like to write the word synergy on a piece of paper, crumple it up, and stick it up his rear. That surely bring a smile to his face. These clowns can't get the amer west/ airways merger in order and theyre already scheming the next one.

I was just going to refer to the fact that USAirways is still dealing with the repercussions of the AmWest merger....*sigh all in the name of money I suppose, regardless of the true cost.

[scramjet]

If it is, I called it a few months ago. I would be very surprised if a merger with United was ever off the table, it probably just went into hibernation for a little while post regulatory objections.

[WacoFan]

Wow - AAA/UAL would be awesome. If I am correct, you would then have the AWA AlPA, UAL ALPA, and USAPA all fighting each other for seniority, etc. Maybe Jerry Springer could host? I would find it folly for USAir to merge with anyone else while they still haven't consolidated their last merger. Seems like dumping three different jigsaws on a table and trying to solve each one.

[Doug Taylor]

...it's all fun and games until someone hits Geraldo in the face with a chair...

[BobDDuck]

When Geraldo get's hit is when stuff STARTS getting fun.

The ONLY reason a UAL-AAA merger would make sense (other then they've been trying to do it for almost 10 years now) is that Tilton just wants to sell UAL and Parker would love nothing more then to go back into merger mode and have an excuse for the poor operation he is running.

Heck, maybe it would solve the seniority issue too somehow.

[N826AW]

If there was a UAL/US merger it would be the death knell for USAPA.

An Important Message from CEO Doug Parker

April 16, 2008

Dear Fellow Employees,

With the recent news of a potential Delta/Northwest merger, analysts and media are speculating about the next potential combination. While we had hoped to remain on the sidelines of this speculation, today’s Wall Street Journal suggests we may be in merger talks with United and another article in the Dallas Morning News suggests we might make a good merger partner for American.

While I can’t comment on any specific discussions or transaction I certainly didn’t want you to hear this speculation without hearing directly from me about what this might mean for US Airways.

Most of you know my views on consolidation and those have not changed. Our industry is far too fragmented and consolidation, if done properly, could result in a much healthier industry which would be good for our employees, our customers and the communities we serve. Rest assured if US Airways chooses to participate in any industry consolidation, we will do so because we believe it is the best interests of our employees and our airline.

Despite all of the challenges of merging two airlines, we are a much stronger company today as a result of the merger of US Airways and America West. We posted the highest pre-tax margin of the big six airlines in 2006 and even with our operational challenges we posted the second highest pre-tax margin in 2007.

And we have an improving airline. We’ve made great strides with our operational improvement plan, including top three performances in on-time arrivals for three consecutive months. As we continue through 2008, we feel extremely good about our ability to continue to improve our operational performance relative to the industry.

But we can't ignore what's happening in the world around us. Oil has risen to over $113 per barrel and Wall Street is anticipating a recession that, if it happens, will lower all airline revenues. And the DL/NW combination potentially creates a formidable competitor. In that world, all airlines are going to have to make dramatic changes to their existing business models in order to be viable.

I know airline merger speculation can be distracting so for now, I encourage all of us to remain focused on running a great airline. Our work on the reliability, convenience and appearance initiatives continues and we are running an extremely reliable airline as a result. Whatever we do, we will always take great care to ensure the path we choose returns value to our shareholders and customers, and also provides long-term stability for our employees.

Thanks for all you do for our customers and keep up the great work.

[BobDDuck]

Originally Posted by Dougie P

Rest assured if US Airways chooses to participate in any industry consolidation, we will do so because we believe it is the best interests of our employees and our airline.

Now THAT is funny.

[JDMcFly]

Originally Posted by BobDDuck

Now THAT is funny.

Management is employees too, right?

[WestIndian425]

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

...it's all fun and games until someone hits Geraldo in the face with a chair...

Originally Posted by BobDDuck

When Geraldo get's hit is when stuff STARTS getting fun.

What's with all the itching for Geraldo to get hit?

I think the saddest part of it all is the fact that UAL is going to get bought...that's supposed to be the #2 carrier!

[SoCalAprch]

Originally Posted by WestIndian425

What's with all the itching for Geraldo to get hit?

I think the saddest part of it all is the fact that UAL is going to get bought...that's supposed to be the #2 carrier!

I agree, United used to be a juggernaut. Now they may be bought by US Air or even Continental. Im not saying anything against US Air or Continental but tell this to someone in the early 90s and they would laugh at you. Sad how management has let this once great airline go down the crapper.

[Maximillian_Jenius]

Originally Posted by BobDDuck

When Geraldo get's hit is when stuff STARTS getting fun.

The ONLY reason a UAL-AAA merger would make sense (other then they've been trying to do it for almost 10 years now) is that Tilton just wants to sell UAL and Parker would love nothing more then to go back into merger mode and have an excuse for the poor operation he is running.

Heck, maybe it would solve the seniority issue too somehow.

I'm against industry consolidation.

Having said that what is the value of a UAL/AAA merger? I see a UAL/CAL merger being better for UAL than AAA.

No offense to AAA, but they're more of large domestic carrier. They don't have much international traffic.

Continental, is huge in Latin america. United isn't. Likewise, Continental doesn't have a huge asian or european network, and United does.

So, I see those too airlines being a far better mesh than AAA.

But, what do I know...I'm only a former A.Net nerd!

Now a JC.com nerd.

[OldTownPilot]

CAL is #2 to Europe behind Southernjets in both passengers and number of destinations.

Tilton seems to want to make UAL the acquired carrier in whatever transaction takes place. With the number of SLI issues going to arbitration, the acquired carrier usually loses out. Either way CAL or Airways, I see the UAL pilots losing whatever seniority battle they face.

[Maximillian_Jenius]

Originally Posted by OldTownPilot

CAL is #2 to Europe behind Southernjets in both passengers and number of destinations.

Thanks, didn't know that!