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Old April 10th, 2008, 07:11   #26
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Default Re: UND Seminole Crash from Oct. 07

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Kinetic energy is 1/2 * M * V^2, so that small object (bird) can do even more damage than you might think. Momentum is M*V.

Look for birds, and avoid them...
An 8 ox sparrow will cause 2 TONS of impact at 90 knots. Imagine a 6 lb bird at 120....
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Old April 10th, 2008, 08:20   #27
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An 8 ox sparrow will cause 2 TONS of impact at 90 knots. Imagine a 6 lb bird at 120....
Not really. You barely notice when you hit them.
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Old April 11th, 2008, 22:32   #28
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Really? What state are you from?

Maybe some states don't allow the the hunting of "honkers," but in ND, it's blast away.
I thought they were protected, so we aren't technically supposed to kill them, but I could be wrong or behind on what I'm allowed to kill and what I'm not. I don't hunt, so I don't keep up with all of that.

I can only imagine how much worse ND has it...
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Old April 12th, 2008, 13:12   #29
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Default Re: UND Seminole Crash from Oct. 07

man thats sad.

I couldn't imagine being that plane.

condolonces to the families.

that being said, birds in the air scare the poop outta me.
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Old April 12th, 2008, 13:59   #30
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I thought they were protected, so we aren't technically supposed to kill them, but I could be wrong or behind on what I'm allowed to kill and what I'm not. I don't hunt, so I don't keep up with all of that.

I can only imagine how much worse ND has it...
not protected

Nothing is better than blasting away at geese when they're 10 feet away.
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Default Re: UND Seminole Crash from Oct. 07

Anyone have a link to the UND aircraft? It'd be interesting to see the kind of damage...probably a good visual aid for when I'm a CFI...(sad as the situation is though...)
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Old April 13th, 2008, 00:36   #32
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Anyone have a link to the UND aircraft? It'd be interesting to see the kind of damage...probably a good visual aid for when I'm a CFI...(sad as the situation is though...)
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Old April 13th, 2008, 01:51   #33
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not protected

Nothing is better than blasting away at geese when they're 10 feet away.
Awesome. I'll have to keep that in mind.
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Old April 13th, 2008, 03:04   #34
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Bird strikes have been an increasing concern of mine whenever I fly. Lately we have had large amounts of birds around our airport.

Last year a bird went through the windshield of our Beechcraft Duchess. Luckily the pilot wasn't hurt but it was a rather large bird.
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not protected

Nothing is better than blasting away at geese when they're 10 feet away.
yeah dude, killing animals for sadistic enjoyment is real awesome :-\
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birds in the air scare the poop outta me.
And airplanes don't scare birds??
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Old April 13th, 2008, 09:30   #37
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Last year a bird went through the windshield of our Beechcraft Duchess. Luckily the pilot wasn't hurt but it was a rather large bird.
Saw the results of where a bird went through the windshield of a DC-3. Hit the pilot in the chest. Just about knocked the pilot out...no injuries though, other than a bruise. Airplane looked nasty though... blood and feathers everywhere on the left side of the cockpit.
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Old April 13th, 2008, 13:29   #38
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I just flew an Arrow that had both wings replaced when it hit five geese late last year in the Chicago area. Luckily the stabilator was not struck and the pilot landed without further incident.
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