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Old April 8th, 2008, 20:24   #1
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Default Skybus Coming Back?!?

Hmmmm.....very interesting. I don't see it happening.

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Old April 8th, 2008, 20:27   #2
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and here's where our education skillz can come in handy!!

Unless he's got money to throw away, i'm pretty doubtful.
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Old April 8th, 2008, 20:38   #3
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I was surprised to hear he may try to resurrect it. I don't see it happening either. $10million as a "seed" to attract other investors?? "Hey guys. I know our plan didn't work even when fuel prices were lower, but if you give me more money, I'm sure it will work?" I got some ocean front property in Arizona too.
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"The founder of Skybus Airlines is working on a plan to revive the bankrupt carrier.
John Weikle said Monday night from Dayton, Ohio, that he had been working all weekend to build a team that could reorganize the airline and restore service"

"Weikle is working with Mark Sparling, his vice president for finance during the founding of Skybus. Sparling and Weikle left Skybus not long before it began operations because they disagreed with the board’s direction and its choice for chief executive officer, Bill Diffen-derffer."

I realize I'm new to aviation, but if Weikle founded the company, why did he not have a say so in the direction the business went? Wouldn't he have the final work? That doesn't make sense to me.
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Maybe it will work if they propose a new business model that is actually reputable. I don't see any logic in returning to service with the failed model that they were using previous to going TU.

Edit: A union would probably be in their best interest as well.
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i'm thinking it's an old april fools joke.
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Well, it's kinda too late for that, don't ya think?
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nah.. never too late for an april fools joke!
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You do know that Skybus wasn't his first thought at this correct?
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New business model: 250 hours in the right seat of a A319 for $40,000! yeaaahhh!!
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You do know that Skybus wasn't his first thought at this correct?
Yeah, he wanted some start-up airline based in Dayton, Ohio in the late 1990's. The original airline was called Heartland Airlines and was going to operate the Boeing 717's. Heartland almost reached startup, but failed to raise the necessary capital and was abandoned.

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New business model: 250 hours in the right seat of a A319 for $40,000! yeaaahhh!!
Since when was the A319 looked down upon as a regional jet? Oh, wait, when Skybus operated them, of course!
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Maybe it will work if they propose a new business model that is actually reputable. I don't see any logic in returning to service with the failed model that they were using previous to going TU.

Edit: A union would probably be in their best interest as well.
If they go with the original business model again, a union would kill them quickly. That business model can't work with decent labor wages.
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If they go with the original business model again, a union would kill them quickly. That business model can't work with decent labor wages.
Right, so I guess that the only feasible option would be to incorporate a new business model and have a union.
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New business model - Seat auctions. Show up at the gate on any given day their is Skybus Service. The gate agent is a quick talking auctioneer. The bids start at $5. Window seats $10. If the plane sells out above the overhead cost, the pilots and F/As split the profit.
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Yeah - it'll work this time!
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Since when was the A319 looked down upon as a regional jet? Oh, wait, when Skybus operated them, of course!
It's not looked down upon at all.
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Hmm, lemme cut you a big check so you can sell some of your tickets for $10 to capture market share and publicity and oil is hovering around $110/barrel... and the economy is in a recession. Oh, I'm sure there's some airline pilots that'll throw money at THAT turkey!

"Ahm puttin' mah money in Jack Utsick Innaprises!"
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Is that really the guys name???

I personally would not choose to go into business with a guy named Diffen-derffer
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"Ahm puttin' mah money in Jack Utsick Innaprises!"
Now there's a great idea! Thank God I had the good fortune to be a poor FO and could actually use that excuse. Seemed to cut that conversation right off at the knees.
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Now there's a great idea! Thank God I had the good fortune to be a poor FO and could actually use that excuse. Seemed to cut that conversation right off at the knees.


I guess I shouldn't kid about that so I don't get knifed in JFK, eh?
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I guess I shouldn't kid about that so I don't get knifed in JFK, eh?
That is a hot button issue. For a group of people who need to be on the above average intelligence level to do this job, pilots are dumber than a box of turnips when it comes to investments. Unless your name is Spank, then it's just "Goooollllddd."
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I am Dutch, is that not veeeird?
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Maybe it will work if they propose a new business model that is actually reputable. I don't see any logic in returning to service with the failed model that they were using previous to going TU.

Edit: A union would probably be in their best interest as well.
It is never in the best interest of a business to have a union.


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Right, so I guess that the only feasible option would be to incorporate a new business model and have a union.
huh?
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