Where will ATA planes go??

VATechPilot · April 6th, 2008, 12:59

Most likely EVERYWHERE. But what airlines do you believe will have major interest. Maybe a charter airline or 2? My uneducated guess is that the biggest interest will be in Europe.

Nick · April 6th, 2008, 13:11

I think Continental would be interested in acquiring some more 757-300s. They are good for domestic routes that need more capacity then the 737s.

Maybe they could use more 737s as well. They just ordered a bunch though.

higney85 · April 6th, 2008, 14:26

fedex

n57flyguy · April 6th, 2008, 14:30

No doubt FedEx will take a few up

fly4food84 · April 6th, 2008, 14:54

Those 757's are definitely on Fedex's menu!

SeanD · April 6th, 2008, 14:55

When did FedEx start flying 757s?

Milesar · April 6th, 2008, 15:22

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Originally Posted by SeanD

When did FedEx start flying 757s?

Next week

n57flyguy · April 6th, 2008, 15:33

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Originally Posted by Milesar

Next week

Hahaha

Sean, it was annouced late September 06, a few delivered in 07 with more to come through out the years to replace their 727 fleet.

Actually, it was a conspiracy by FedEx to ruin ATA to get more 757s

flyingmaniac · April 6th, 2008, 15:41

I think us here at JC will put our money into a pot-luck and purchase one of ATA's jets.

mooneyguy · April 6th, 2008, 15:55

At least on paper, the fleet transfered over to world airways the same night ata announced it stopped ops. World of course is a another company under the Global Aero Logistics umbrella, along with north Amercian airlines.

Cheechako · April 6th, 2008, 18:54

I wonder if we'll see some of those ETOPS 737-800s here at Alaska. . . .

Velocipede · April 6th, 2008, 19:06

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Originally Posted by Cheechako

I wonder if we'll see some of those ETOPS 737-800s here at Alaska. . . .

If you've been there any length of time, you'd know they fiddle around so long that someone else always pulls the trigger first.

OldTownPilot · April 6th, 2008, 21:15

North American also flies 757s so they have a training and MX program there to take those airplanes. I'd say the -200s will either be in North American or FedEx colors.

CAL may take the 4 -300s they took a bunch the last time ATA got rid of airplanes. Either them or a European charter airline.

The 737-800's no idea, probably out of this country. CAL already has a bunch on order, maybe they could pull an airframe swap with Boeing or a leasing company, but I'd doubt that they would want more -800s.

kellwolf · April 6th, 2008, 21:31

Isn't Delta supposed to have some 737-800s on order? Might be cheaper to snag the used ATA ones.....

cime_sp · April 7th, 2008, 21:03

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Originally Posted by kellwolf

Isn't Delta supposed to have some 737-800s on order? Might be cheaper to snag the used ATA ones.....

Delta also has a hard-on for 757's these days. They've been snatching them up as quickly as they can.

Velocipede · April 7th, 2008, 21:06

Didn't DAL dump a bunch of 737-800 line slots for 787 positions?

MD-11Loader · April 7th, 2008, 21:31

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Originally Posted by mooneyguy

At least on paper, the fleet transfered over to world airways the same night ata announced it stopped ops. World of course is a another company under the Global Aero Logistics umbrella, along with north Amercian airlines.

No they didn't. We aren't taking the DC-10's because TZ's pilots go with the planes and we have enough to deal with because of TZ-ALPA saying that they have a right to come bump our pilots. If the company is smart they will let the planes fall off TZ's operating certificate and go back to the lessor, WO could then re-lease the planes if we wanted to and avoid having to take TZ's pilots. I for one just want to see them parked and stay parked. We can't crew what we have now, the last thing we need is more DC-10's .

OldTownPilot · April 7th, 2008, 23:22

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Originally Posted by cime_sp

Delta also has a hard-on for 757's these days. They've been snatching them up as quickly as they can.

ATA's are RR engined and DL's birds are Pratt powered. It would be another engine program that they would have to worry about. So probably not. Then again they have 2 engine programs on their 767-300ERs.

staplegun · April 8th, 2008, 01:39

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Originally Posted by OldTownPilot

ATA's are RR engined and DL's birds are Pratt powered. It would be another engine program that they would have to worry about. So probably not. Then again they have 2 engine programs on their 767-300ERs.

And now 2 on our 777's as well, The new 777LR's have GE engines while the original 777ER's have Rolls-Royce...

Kevin

Polar742 · April 8th, 2008, 01:44

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Originally Posted by staplegun

And now 2 on our 777's as well, The new 777LR's have GE engines while the original 777ER's have Rolls-Royce...

Kevin

You think they'll keep 2 types of engines, or refit to one type?

staplegun · April 8th, 2008, 01:48

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Originally Posted by Polar742

You think they'll keep 2 types of engines, or refit to one type?

It's cheaper to keep 2, so that's the way they'll go IMO.

Also Delta used to be rabid about having similar engine types, but now with all of the exposure they've had with mixed-engine fleets I think it's much less of an issue.

Again, all my opinion and based on no known facts...

Kevin

Polar742 · April 8th, 2008, 01:53

Interesting. Our muckity-mucks refitted every thing with GE since they thought it was cheaper.

This whole "You can choose your engines" big airplane world is so confusing....

Although I'd trust DAL beancounters over ours....

Maximillian_Jenius · April 8th, 2008, 02:33

They can't swap out those GE's on the LR. Boeing only has one engine choice on the LR's that being the big ole GE's!

Polar742 · April 8th, 2008, 03:23

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Originally Posted by Maximillian_Jenius

They can't swap out those GE's on the LR. Boeing only has one engine choice on the LR's that being the big ole GE's!

Ya learn something new each day...Thanks

Maximillian_Jenius · April 8th, 2008, 04:03

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Originally Posted by Polar742

Ya learn something new each day...Thanks

Aviation "fanboy" status here, according to DT!

April 6th, 2008, 12:59	#1
VATechPilot Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Blacksburg Posts: 120	Where will ATA planes go?? Most likely EVERYWHERE. But what airlines do you believe will have major interest. Maybe a charter airline or 2? My uneducated guess is that the biggest interest will be in Europe. __________________ Matt Last edited by VATechPilot; April 6th, 2008 at 15:08.

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OldTownPilot Old Skool Join Date: May 2005 Location: BGR (Bangor, ME) Posts: 3,032 Blog Entries: 6	Re: Where will ATA planes go?? North American also flies 757s so they have a training and MX program there to take those airplanes. I'd say the -200s will either be in North American or FedEx colors. CAL may take the 4 -300s they took a bunch the last time ATA got rid of airplanes. Either them or a European charter airline. The 737-800's no idea, probably out of this country. CAL already has a bunch on order, maybe they could pull an airframe swap with Boeing or a leasing company, but I'd doubt that they would want more -800s. __________________ As a wise man said, sumb!tch flew in, sumb!tch'll fly out. Ski Hard. Party Harder.

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Polar742 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Rockledge Posts: 1,298	Re: Where will ATA planes go?? Interesting. Our muckity-mucks refitted every thing with GE since they thought it was cheaper. This whole "You can choose your engines" big airplane world is so confusing.... Although I'd trust DAL beancounters over ours.... __________________ Hey! It's all ball bearings nowadays. Now you prepare that Fetzer valve with some 3-in-1 oil and some gauze pads. - Irwin M Fletcher

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