What are you gonna do when your airline Tango Uniforms? - Page 4

mojo6911 · April 6th, 2008, 23:32

I am currently a CFI. I am making OK money (a little shy of 30k), my schedule is VERY flexible, I like the people I work with, and most of all, it seems very stable, since we train mostly foreign pilots now.

If I lost my job tomorrow, I still have a few places I could go instruct, if needed. Worst case scenario, I will go back and rebuild my IT business I had before I was instructing.

Seggy · April 6th, 2008, 23:46

Plan A) Try to get as far up on the food chain as possible. Ride it out and see where my career takes me. I have NO idea why guys want to stay at Regionals. You really don't want to be stuck there when mommy major decides to cut contract feed.

Plan B) Not sure.....yet. Real Estate? Teaching? Political work? I'm going to explore plan B more with my new move!

On a side note, I think that Airline guys need to keep their ears to the ground concerning the corporate/fractional/135/91 type of flying opportunities that may come up throughout one's career. I know I am!

DeltaASA16 · April 7th, 2008, 14:42

1. See about getting a job with the National Park Service.. aviation related or not.

2. Get my seaplane rating and move to Alaska in search for the thrill of a lifetime

WAFlyBoy · April 7th, 2008, 14:55

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Originally Posted by DeltaASA16

2. Get my seaplane rating and move to Alaska in search for the thrill of a lifetime

My wife would never let that happen though. Perhaps I'd bone up on my probability and try to get into the actuarial sciences. (Talk about job security!)

Or maybe become an airline CEO. Who knows.

Mad Doggy Dog · April 7th, 2008, 15:27

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Originally Posted by Realms09

I am surprised that more pilots are not attracted to this sort of back-up plan (coast guard, navy, merchant marine, sailboat racing, etc.). Astronauts, aviators, and sailors are all essentially made from the same stuff. They seek to explore and to command a vessel and crew. It's just the medium that changes.

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Next week I start a course to get my USCG Master Ship Captain license.

Doing this for fun, but I suppose it could also be the a step towards a plan B. I like playing with boats as much as I do planes.

Yaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhh, matey!

Doug Taylor · April 7th, 2008, 15:28

Sez Barnacle Bill the Sailor!

MikeOH58 · April 7th, 2008, 15:29

I'm suprised the idea hasn't been mentioned yet, but if I ever have to leave aviation, I would love to become a teacher. Weekends, Holidays and Summers off? How can you beat that? In fact, I might even like to flight instruct a little on the side as well. I'd say there is a very good possibility I end up changing careers around 35-40 for the teaching route.

Mad Doggy Dog · April 7th, 2008, 15:38

My secret hope is to get marooned on a deserted island with the Swedish Bikini Team.........or at least Ginger and Mary Ann in their younger days.

[I can't believe nobody hit that.]

Doug Taylor · April 7th, 2008, 15:42

Well, you couldn't see the overt "overtones" of the show? No one hit it because, well Thurston didn't have viagra and the other male characters, well, it didn't 'interest' them!

THINK ABOUT IT!

tonyw · April 7th, 2008, 15:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by WAFlyBoy

Or maybe become an airline CEO. Who knows.

That would be a nice gig. If you screw up, no worries. You still walk with tens of millions.

The people who suffer as a result of your poor performance lose their jobs and have to scrimp.

You? Go on, live it up! You screwed up, the airline goes under, and now, you don't even have to fly them anymore because you got fired and you can charter your own jet with the tens of millions you got!

KLB · April 7th, 2008, 16:30

1. Find another flying gig. Job closings and being furloughed are apart of this business. The best thing to do is to keep the resume fresh, the logbook updated, and looking for decent gigs. My CFI certificates are still good if the stuff hits the fan. In these days you could easily pull 40,000 to 50,000 bucks at the right places to at least get you by.

2. Middle School & High School band Director. I would side gig as a stage musician working in studios. I'd have to go back to school for 1.5 to 2 years to get this one done.

3. Owner and CEO of my own small business. (I haven't figured out in what yet. My dad always wanted to start a lawn service business.)

4. Marry rich and be a stay at home husband.

Polar742 · April 7th, 2008, 16:31

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Originally Posted by Mad Doggy Dog

or at least Ginger and Mary Ann in their younger days.

Since Mary Ann puffs tuff, you'd be havin' the munchies like a mofo....

ASpilot2be · April 7th, 2008, 16:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Doggy Dog

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Next week I start a course to get my USCG Master Ship Captain license.

Doing this for fun, but I suppose it could also be the a step towards a plan B. I like playing with boats as much as I do planes.

Yaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhh, matey!

Awesome!!! I know a guy that quit his job on the ferries up here, and now is a captain on a ship based in Singapore shipping race cars around the world

I am considering joining the Military Sealift Command.

PCL_128 · April 7th, 2008, 16:52

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Originally Posted by kellwolf

Voted "yes" to the TA or voted "no" to the TA?

Personally, I have yet to find a person that'll man up to it.

Hehe. Yes, I should have said "don't blame me, I voted NO!" Much like the pro-union or anti-union thing, though, you can always tell which ones are being honest if you ask the right questions.

charlie1017 · April 7th, 2008, 16:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonyw

That would be a nice gig. If you screw up, no worries. You still walk with tens of millions.

The people who suffer as a result of your poor performance lose their jobs and have to scrimp.

You? Go on, live it up! You screwed up, the airline goes under, and now, you don't even have to fly them anymore because you got fired and you can charter your own jet with the tens of millions you got!

Sad, but unfortunately true...In fact you could bankrupt your airline and make $$$... Look at Carl Icahn now...

Firebird2XC · April 7th, 2008, 17:54

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Originally Posted by coa787

Excuse me for interrupting, but what exactly do the letters "TU" stand for?

Tango Uniform is a radio friendly term referring, as Doug said, to 'belly up'.

But in this case, it's a different part of the anatomy.

... which is more fun than 'belly'.

Yay!

Qgar · April 7th, 2008, 17:57

Hahaha! I learned something new today. Thanks for that!

Firebird2XC · April 7th, 2008, 18:19

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Originally Posted by WildCougar

Hahaha! I learned something new today. Thanks for that!

Anytime, darlin'.

meritflyer · April 7th, 2008, 18:24

I am going to go back to being a businessman and being a CFI.

WestIndian425 · April 7th, 2008, 19:23

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Originally Posted by Cruise

That's an interesting perspective on the situation. Thanks for the positive vote from you. Yes, I did my part, and continue to do so by promoting the merits of ALPA representation to everyone around me.
Question: how would you explain to all the bitter XJT'ers it's not my fault when I launch w/ 74 people at less than 50 seat rates while their flying is being reduced? It makes me furious to think I would be contributing negatively to the industry.

We know it's not your fault. Actually, many of the folks I fly with usually lament the fact that it's a shame we make more than the guys carrying more people in the dash.

If there is any bitterness going on, it's because of the idea that the relationship with CO is deteriorating.

Fly4Pay · April 7th, 2008, 20:18

Personally, I'm gonna continue work on my plan for world domination...

Mad Doggy Dog · April 9th, 2008, 15:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

Well, you couldn't see the overt "overtones" of the show? No one hit it because, well Thurston didn't have viagra and the other male characters, well, it didn't 'interest' them!

THINK ABOUT IT!

What?

No way the Skipper was gay! Unless he belonged to the "Bears" club.

[The "Bears" were having a convention at our SFO long layover hotel the last time I had to be there. My window overlooked the pool but I was afraid to look outside.]

Gilligan and Professor? Well, they were young, single and neat..........not that there is anything wrong with that!

Fly4Pay · April 9th, 2008, 22:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

Well, you couldn't see the overt "overtones" of the show? No one hit it because, well Thurston didn't have viagra and the other male characters, well, it didn't 'interest' them!

THINK ABOUT IT!

Really want something to think about--all those folks on the island and only Thurston and Lovey were gettin' any.... so there....

April 6th, 2008, 23:32	#76
mojo6911 Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: GKY Posts: 1,747	Re: What are you gonna do when your airline Tango Uniforms? I am currently a CFI. I am making OK money (a little shy of 30k), my schedule is VERY flexible, I like the people I work with, and most of all, it seems very stable, since we train mostly foreign pilots now. If I lost my job tomorrow, I still have a few places I could go instruct, if needed. Worst case scenario, I will go back and rebuild my IT business I had before I was instructing.

April 6th, 2008, 23:46	#77
Seggy Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 5,299	Re: What are you gonna do when your airline Tango Uniforms? Plan A) Try to get as far up on the food chain as possible. Ride it out and see where my career takes me. I have NO idea why guys want to stay at Regionals. You really don't want to be stuck there when mommy major decides to cut contract feed. Plan B) Not sure.....yet. Real Estate? Teaching? Political work? I'm going to explore plan B more with my new move! On a side note, I think that Airline guys need to keep their ears to the ground concerning the corporate/fractional/135/91 type of flying opportunities that may come up throughout one's career. I know I am! __________________ www.alpa.org Last edited by Seggy; April 7th, 2008 at 06:45.

April 7th, 2008, 14:42	#78
DeltaASA16 Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 82	Re: What are you gonna do when your airline Tango Uniforms? 1. See about getting a job with the National Park Service.. aviation related or not. 2. Get my seaplane rating and move to Alaska in search for the thrill of a lifetime __________________ My Aviation Photos

April 7th, 2008, 15:28	#81
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 41,245 Blog Entries: 1	Re: What are you gonna do when your airline Tango Uniforms? Sez Barnacle Bill the Sailor! __________________ Doug Taylor http://76school.flyblog.com (old!) http://30west.flyblog.com (updated 11/28)

April 7th, 2008, 15:29	#82
MikeOH58 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: CT Posts: 1,116	Re: What are you gonna do when your airline Tango Uniforms? I'm suprised the idea hasn't been mentioned yet, but if I ever have to leave aviation, I would love to become a teacher. Weekends, Holidays and Summers off? How can you beat that? In fact, I might even like to flight instruct a little on the side as well. I'd say there is a very good possibility I end up changing careers around 35-40 for the teaching route.

April 7th, 2008, 15:38	#83
Mad Doggy Dog Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: DFW Posts: 240	Re: What are you gonna do when your airline Tango Uniforms? My secret hope is to get marooned on a deserted island with the Swedish Bikini Team.........or at least Ginger and Mary Ann in their younger days. [I can't believe nobody hit that.]

April 7th, 2008, 15:42	#84
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 41,245 Blog Entries: 1	Re: What are you gonna do when your airline Tango Uniforms? Well, you couldn't see the overt "overtones" of the show? No one hit it because, well Thurston didn't have viagra and the other male characters, well, it didn't 'interest' them! THINK ABOUT IT! __________________ Doug Taylor http://76school.flyblog.com (old!) http://30west.flyblog.com (updated 11/28)

April 7th, 2008, 16:30	#86
KLB Old Skool Join Date: May 2005 Location: DFW Posts: 2,815	Re: What are you gonna do when your airline Tango Uniforms? 1. Find another flying gig. Job closings and being furloughed are apart of this business. The best thing to do is to keep the resume fresh, the logbook updated, and looking for decent gigs. My CFI certificates are still good if the stuff hits the fan. In these days you could easily pull 40,000 to 50,000 bucks at the right places to at least get you by. 2. Middle School & High School band Director. I would side gig as a stage musician working in studios. I'd have to go back to school for 1.5 to 2 years to get this one done. 3. Owner and CEO of my own small business. (I haven't figured out in what yet. My dad always wanted to start a lawn service business.) 4. Marry rich and be a stay at home husband. __________________ "Never miss a good chance to shut up!" ATP ASEL AMEL CFI CFII MEI Single Pilot Part 135 Freight Current SA227 and BE99 Former Chieftan 2100+ TT B.S. Commercial Aviation: Flight Operations

April 7th, 2008, 17:57	#92
Qgar Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NYC/EWR Posts: 3,766	Re: What are you gonna do when your airline Tango Uniforms? Hahaha! I learned something new today. Thanks for that! __________________ Colgan Q-400 FA, ATS, FA Union Rep and Hotel Committee Chairperson. Just Remember -- NOT ALL THOSE WHO WANDER ARE LOST... I may have wings, but that doesn't make me an angel.....

April 7th, 2008, 18:24	#94
meritflyer Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Winchestertonfieldville Posts: 6,747	Re: What are you gonna do when your airline Tango Uniforms? I am going to go back to being a businessman and being a CFI. __________________ The simplest answer tends to be correct.

April 7th, 2008, 20:18	#96
Fly4Pay Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: ATL (Work) / Warner Robins, GA (home) Posts: 824	Re: What are you gonna do when your airline Tango Uniforms? Personally, I'm gonna continue work on my plan for world domination... __________________ The above text is the opinion of the author only, not of AirTran, my wife, my mom, my next door neighbor, or anybody else.

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