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| Old Skool Join Date: May 2006 Location: Florida
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| This is their 3rd fatal crash in 5 months. I know there are some on JC who know people over at Kemper... RIP all. Quote:
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| Old Skool Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Boca Raton
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| Very bad news. Sorry for the losses over at Kemper but I'm glad it wasn't at my school. I don't want to speculate as accidents obviously happen. But I hope the FAA/NTSB finds out what is wrong at the school and find a solution. |
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| Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Elk Grove, CA
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| Gosh...terrible news. RIP. 3rd fatal crash?? Is this school huge or something? I'd think they'd be investigated by the FAA at this point, if not already. |
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| Senior Member | Three fatal crashes in five months, wow! Shouldn't the FAA close the school for few months until they figure out what's going on there? ![]()
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| Old Skool Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Boca Raton
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| Damn, the pilot was the manager and chief instructor according to the Sun-Sentinel. Left behind a wife and two children. ![]() |
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| Old Skool | Wow! RIP ![]() |
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| Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Cambridge, MA
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| Sad... RIP
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| Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Somewhere in FL
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| He was also one of the owners. This is pretty terrible news, but what the heck is the deal with that school? This will probably finish them off now... |
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| Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: St. Petersburg, FL
Posts: 2,407
| Four guys in a 172? Perhaps it was one of those 180 hp jobs. Very sad, though. |
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| Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Winchester, VA (OKV)
Posts: 256
| Condolences to the familes. Another tough one to understand. Photo's showed a very short, straight ground scar indicating contact at a pretty steep angle, but not spinning. Looked too steep to have been CFIT, or a engine out landing attempt gone bad. Makes you wonder if there may have been a medical emergency or some other huge distraction on board, or perhaps it was a stall, spin that he almost recovered but ran out of altitude. Unless there were witnesses, this will probably be another of those that sticks with you for a while as you try to learn from it. |
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| Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 622
| I encountered one of their students once. The poor girl was on her first solo cross country and was looking for Stuart when she landed at our airport 100 miles away. I tried to help her out (in pidgin English), and called the school in the hope of talking to someone about training standards, and she was gone when I got back. We all know corners are being cut in this industry with students from a certain part of the world. Hopefully these accidents are a symptom of the volume of training, rather than the quality. |
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| Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Gainesville, FL
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| Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: St. Petersburg, FL
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| A very critical article about the school ... http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/co...MPER_0127.html |
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| Old Skool Join Date: May 2006 Location: Florida
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| Two of the guys were FAU students, a school employee, and what's already been said, the flight school owner. ![]()
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| Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Greenville, SC
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| What a surprise that they are still operating. A school here had an accident with one kid killed, and a law suit put them under. |
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| Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: St. Petersburg, FL
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| Not to mention, I can't think that an insurance company would continue to write policies for their aircraft. Perhaps the families of Indian students are less likely to sue - although I do remember a suit being mentioned from a survivor of an earlier fatal accident. |
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| Old Skool Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: New York
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"In another instance last year, a mechanic smelled marijuana smoke in the cockpit of a Kemper plane two students had just returned." awesome.* The article is interesting. Throughout the whole thing Jeff Rozelle is defending the school in the face of all these crashes. Now he's dead because of one. | |
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| Old Skool | RIP. I did one of those researcher flights when I was instructing down that way. |
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| Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: CVG
Posts: 749
| RIP to those involved. I was lucky enough to instruct some of the Indians and I feel the instructors pain/fears. I had some students who had 100 plus hours and I wouldn't sign them off for a Solo. Probably still working on their privates and have as many hours as some of the regional fos.
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| Old Skool Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Boca Raton
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| I got this in my university email: Quote:
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| Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Houston, TX
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| Hey, I think Jeff use to work the line at BCT, ask Christian or Mitch. I think I remember working with him.
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| Old Skool Join Date: May 2006 Location: Florida
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| It always amazes me that the last thing in the world they were probably thinking about that morning is that they were going to die in a plane crash. I'm sure they were so thrilled to be able to get up there and get some first hand research... not to die. I know this fits into any category of death, but it's so strange.
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| Old Skool Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Boca Raton
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