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Old March 3rd, 2008, 15:24   #26
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Default Re: What happens to a drunk guy that diverts a flight??

No, they're usually just a-holes!
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Old March 3rd, 2008, 15:26   #27
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In a real man's airplane (Beech 1900) one time when I was a FO we had one passenger going from BOS to RKD one day in April 2006

I board up the one passenger for the flight, he was not drunk at the time he sits down and takes his seat.

Halfway through the flight, he comes up to the cockpit (remember no cockpit door) sticks his head in with a half empty bottle of Jack in one hand and a Colt 45 in the other asking me and the Captain if we wanted a drink.
I bet you were scared...........scared he'd drink it all before you landed, lol
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Old March 3rd, 2008, 16:33   #28
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Give 'em the boot early. Because if you've got to drop 'em off mid-ocean, it changes everything.

I think most of the fines vary between $20K-$40K depending on the circumstances. It's NOT cheap.
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Old March 3rd, 2008, 16:37   #29
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THAT is one expensive drink! I can say those policeman took him off the plane so fast he probably didn't even know what hit him. Then, 3 hrs of paperwork
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Actually, I'll betchya if the pilot spend anything more than about 45-90 minutes on the paperwork, he's a slow typer.

I bounced a drunk in BRU a few months ago before pushback and it involved about 0 mins of paperwork. Haven't heard a thing since.
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Maybe planes need a "Dr. Evil" type trap door. Just press the button for seat 21A and problem solved. Although it may be a violation of FAR 91.15
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Old March 3rd, 2008, 17:49   #32
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Maybe planes need a "Dr. Evil" type trap door. Just press the button for seat 21A and problem solved. Although it may be a violation of FAR 91.15
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Old March 3rd, 2008, 22:15   #33
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Hey Stud,
I think this is the jackhole you were talking about.

Briton 'threatened plane blast'
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A Briton was pinned down by the crew of a transatlantic flight after threatening to blow up the plane, a US court has heard.
Aiden Mackle, 44, of Portadown, Co Armagh, was on board a Delta Airlines flight from Atlanta, Georgia, to Dublin, had been drinking small bottles of wine when he allegedly became unruly, punching one of the cabin crew.
The pilot was eventually forced to divert the plane at Bangor, Maine, where Mackle was arrested by FBI agents.


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If the plane would not literally explode at 30+ thousand feet, I would throw him out

I'm just joking of course

but he should be fined for the stir he caused
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Here's some more...

Flier in court over plane threat

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A passenger accused of threatening to blow up a plane bound for Dublin was remanded in custody after appearing in a US court.
Aiden Simon Mackle of Northern Ireland is accused of telling Delta Air Lines employees that he was a terrorist after drinking and becoming unruly on a flight from Atlanta, Georgia. The plane was diverted to Bangor International Airport, Maine, early on Saturday.
Court documents alleged Mackle punched an off-duty Delta employee and made threats about either hijacking or destroying the plane. Mackle, 44, will remain in jail pending a second hearing on Wednesday. He is charged with assault and interfering with a flight crew.

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Send him to a federal pound me in the rear prison. Make an example of one or two of these jokers and it'll stop real fast.

I've done some really stupid things when I've been drunk but I've never thought it was a good idea to threaten to hijack an airplane.
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How much money does it cost to divert an airplane, refuel it, and so on?

When jokers like this start having their paychecks garnished for the rest of their lives, it'll stop real fast.
This is like saying that making something illegal will make it stop. C'mon..murder comes with a really stiff penalty, and people do it anyway.

The people that do this are obviously a little whacked out to begin with, so no law or penalty is going to keep them from doing it.
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What really surprises me is that airlines still serve alcohol on the airplanes. I know its good for revenue. Although i'm not a professional pilot I have seen numerous drunks boarding aircraft especially after a long layover.
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I really have no problem with serving alcohol on aircraft.

Here's the kicker. There are a number of alcohol-involved situations, but there are also a large number of people on the aircraft that are on some type of drug that have problems as well.

Alcohol usually isn't the problem as much as the personality of the person involved.
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Silly idiot....serves him right. It took all I had not to "accidentally" trip him on his classy departure off the plane...
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The people that do this are obviously a little whacked out to begin with, so no law or penalty is going to keep them from doing it.
I don't know.

Remember the joker who took a dump on a serving cart? If doing so resulted in him spending a few years where he wouldn't be taking dumps because someone was pounding him in the rear, the next guy who wanted to do something like that might not do it.

Sure, there are still going to be people who do stupid things anyway. But they'll pay up the ying yang and it will serve as a deterrent for many.

There are lots of things I'd like to do when I'm drunk that I don't do because I know I'd end up spending time getting acquainted with a 8x8 cell. And I know this even though I'm so drunk I'm having a hard time standing!
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Aiden Mackle, 44, of Portadown, Co Armagh, was on board a Delta Airlines flight from Atlanta, Georgia, to Dublin, had been drinking small bottles of wine when he allegedly became unruly, punching one of the cabin crew.
Well theres the problem right there. Small bottles of wine oughta come with bail money.
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I don't know.

Remember the joker who took a dump on a serving cart? If doing so resulted in him spending a few years where he wouldn't be taking dumps because someone was pounding him in the rear, the next guy who wanted to do something like that might not do it.

Sure, there are still going to be people who do stupid things anyway. But they'll pay up the ying yang and it will serve as a deterrent for many.

There are lots of things I'd like to do when I'm drunk that I don't do because I know I'd end up spending time getting acquainted with a 8x8 cell. And I know this even though I'm so drunk I'm having a hard time standing!
Its the, if a tree falls in the forest riddle. If nobody knows there is a fine or a major penalty, will that penalty stop a person from doing the punishable act? The news will only report the act itself, say taking a dump on a cart, and the immediate response, being arrested. They won't do a follow up 6 months later saying the full punishment, that part is not dramatic enough to get ratings so it goes unsaid.

Your last statement explains exactly why stupid things like this will continue to happen. Some people can not control themselves. Even if they know there is a penalty they will most likely still continue doing the act and nothing short of a total police state will stop this sort of behavior.

With that said, I do think the punishment for diverting a jet, or taking a dump on a cart, should be harsh. Not as a deterrent to others, a small fine would deter most people, but just as an ####### tax to the individual so the rest of us are not stuck footing the bill for his punishment through our taxes.
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We seem to get a fair share of drunk passengers up here.

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A detention hearing to determine whether Mackle will be released on bail is scheduled for Wednesday.

He is being held at Penobscot County Jail.

If convicted, he faces up to 20 years in federal prison and a fine of up to $250,000 on the interference charge and up to six months in prison and a fine of up to $5,000 on the assault charge.
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In a real man's airplane (Beech 1900) one time when I was a FO we had one passenger going from BOS to RKD one day in April 2006

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Halfway through the flight, he comes up to the cockpit (remember no cockpit door) sticks his head in with a half empty bottle of Jack in one hand and a Colt 45 in the other asking me and the Captain if we wanted a drink.
Holy crap, what'd you do with the guy?
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Holy crap, what'd you do with the guy?
One look at Seggy and I don't care how drunk you are, you're probably gonna trip over your own feet trying to get back to your seat!
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