Instrument Instructor rating advice...

[jwp_145]

So, here are the speciffics. Please tell me what you think.

-I have to get my CFII in one month. I already have my CFI and did it as the initial.

-I currently instruct 100 hours a month, five days a week, two days off per week back-to-back, off by 7pm every day.

-I have free unlimited access to a Frasca-like sim, or a pretty cool CBT-FTD, and a CFII buddy who will let me pay him a small hourly to help me out.

-I have $1500 with which to pay for a 172SP at cost.

So I ask, think it can be done? When I did my Initial, I didn't work and could devote as much time as needed to it.

Also, what resources do you guys recommend I study? Gleim? Inst. Flying Handbook, Inst Proc Hndbook, FARAIM?

Much obliged.

[beechpilot]

Originally Posted by jwp_145

So, here are the speciffics. Please tell me what you think.

-I have to get my CFII in one month. I already have my CFI and did it as the initial.

-I currently instruct 100 hours a month, five days a week, two days off per week back-to-back, off by 7pm every day.

-I have free unlimited access to a Frasca-like sim, or a pretty cool CBT-FTD, and a CFII buddy who will let me pay him a small hourly to help me out.

-I have $1500 with which to pay for a 172SP at cost.

So I ask, think it can be done? When I did my Initial, I didn't work and could devote as much time as needed to it.

Also, what resources do you guys recommend I study? Gleim? Inst. Flying Handbook, Inst Proc Hndbook, FARAIM?

Much obliged.

Study the oral exam guide and the flying shouldn't take too long. I did 3 or so flights and it was basically flying approaches from the right seat and talking through what I was doing. This ride was a lot less stressful and less in depth than the initial CFI ride.

[E6BAV8R]

1500 should do it really easy. Just study up on your materials and it should only take about 2 or 3 flights before you are ready for the checkride, depending on how well you remember your stuff from the instrument rating. Especially having access to the sim you can practically do everything there, instrument wise.

You at Spartan or RVS Flight Center?

[jwp_145]

In your opinion, which oral exam guide is the best/most thorough/least obnoxious?

[beechpilot]

Originally Posted by jwp_145

In your opinion, which oral exam guide is the best/most thorough/least obnoxious?

Everyone has different preferences but I used the ASA oral guide and found it to be sufficient.

[moxiepilot]

I think it is really doable. I would recommend using your time to create your lesson plans based on the materials you are using. 3 flights should do it + checkride costs = well under $1500.

Preparation is the part that is most time consuming, then just bang out a few flights and call Dave Wilkerson, Nan or whoever.

[jwp_145]

I WISH I COULD CALL NAN!!!!!

I'm in Arizona now. But I did email Nan for this same advice I'm asking of you guys.

[jwp_145]

So are there any "Instrument Instructor" books out there? I can only seem to find either an Instrument Pilot guide or a CFI guide, but not the CFII. Hmm.

[SpiraMirabilis]

No real CFI-I books that I know of. Need to know the same things as instrument so just study that one. Only difference on checkride is you need to show instructional knowledge.

[jwp_145]

Yeah that is what i figured. So the Instrument Flying Handbook, Instrument Procedures Manual, and FARAIM should suffice? I have plenty of instructional knowledge.

[bdhill1979]

Originally Posted by moxiepilot

I think it is really doable. I would recommend using your time to create your lesson plans based on the materials you are using. 3 flights should do it + checkride costs = well under $1500.
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I did mine for about half that; including the $350 examiner fee.
Exactly 3 hours of instruction received so he could sign me off and away I went.

I did all of my studying out of the AIM, Instrument Procedures Handbook, and the Instrument Flying handbook. If you can teach someone out of those books alone you will be golden.

Having a sim for cheap is muy bueno though. I would suggest you teach in there a bunch before you even get in the plane.

[Fly_Unity]

My experience in AZ I found the examiners to follow the PTS much more closely then in OK, I would get out the Instrument Instructor PTS out and focus mostly on the items on that, especially all the Instrument errors etc, and be able to teach how each instrument works in detail. the PTS, Inst. Flying Handbook are the only 2 books I used, and know FAR 91.175 like the back of your hand.

Glad to see you getting your II. I loved it, and learned tons teaching it.

[jwp_145]

Any advice on lesson plans? I have a bunch of them from my Initial, but i don't think I have any instrument.

[jwp_145]

Whatsup Ben!

[E6BAV8R]

Hey jwp,

Ask Jeff for some lesson plans. He did his at American Flyers in ADS and he should have plenty of them.

[jwp_145]

Yeah I will. He's flying right now, but I'll see him by the end of the day.

[Stomp16]

The lesson plans are a pain in the @$$ to write up. I just wrote all mine up last month and you can have them if you want them. Just let me know.

[E6BAV8R]

He should also have a lot of materials for you to study. Tell him Greg from OSU said hey as well!

[SlantG]

Books:
www.genehudson.com -> Gene's "Instrument Flying Made Easy"
www.rodmachado.com -> Instrument Flying books (2)
www.jeppesen.com --> Instrument Procedures Manual
www.faa.gov --> Instrument Flying Handbook

Lesson Plans:
www.slantgolf.com, Jedi Nein's CFI Page (being updated today)

Study Guide:
http://www.silverwings.aero/IFRstudy.pdf (PDF Format)

Good luck!

[moxiepilot]

Originally Posted by Stomp16

The lesson plans are a pain in the @$$ to write up. I just wrote all mine up last month and you can have them if you want them. Just let me know.

Have a whole curriculum, with lesson plans which parallels Jep GFD. If you want my curriculum, I'll need your email, PM me its a whole bunch of files