FMS training software

falconvalley · February 28th, 2008, 10:09

Does anyone know where I could get training software for the FMS on the EMB-145?

BobDDuck · February 28th, 2008, 10:35

I really wouldn't worry about it too much. As long as you understand the basics (and I think you flew the DorkJet your last few months right?) you should be able to adapt to pretty much any FMS system.

But to answer your ACTUAL question... sorry, can't help ya. Just boosting my post count.

falconvalley · February 28th, 2008, 10:54

Not worried. Just bored crazy and looking for something to do today. The last time I used an FMS was on a King Air in like 2003.

TFaudree_ERAU · February 28th, 2008, 11:15

Got flight sim? Yes, I said flight sim. There is a decent aircraft add on that simulates the basic functions of the FMS.

Gonzo · February 28th, 2008, 12:19

One more for flight sim. I found a add on with a full working FMS.

Pietrantonio · February 28th, 2008, 12:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by TFaudree_ERAU

Got flight sim? Yes, I said flight sim. There is a decent aircraft add on that simulates the basic functions of the FMS.

Where is this addon you speak of??

TFaudree_ERAU · February 28th, 2008, 12:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pietrantonio

Where is this addon you speak of??

http://www.feelthere.com/2005/erj145.html

Or other sources if you know what I mean...

Arrrggh

jwp_145 · February 28th, 2008, 23:06

I had a 16 week cockpit automation course at Oklahoma State, and we used software by AeroSim. Kinda expensive software, but it was an exact replication of every single thing in the cockpit of the CRJ 200. Possible they have the ERJ too.

Nick · February 28th, 2008, 23:10

I second the FeelThere software.

falconvalley · February 29th, 2008, 11:23

Thanks for the replies! I'll look into that stuff.

BobDDuck · February 29th, 2008, 12:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwp_145

I had a 16 week cockpit automation course at Oklahoma State...

Not knocking you, but what the heck did you do for 16 weeks? Unless it was a theory class, I can't see getting much more then a few hours out of the CRJ automation.

jwp_145 · February 29th, 2008, 17:27

Well we had checklists for the airplane. Over the course of the sixteen weeks, we learned how to go all the way through the pre-start procedures, engine start, everything involved with operating the systems, correcting any error or alert messages the EICAS was giving us involving some improper switch setting. Then we would take all of the performance data and the flight plan, load it into the computer, and then click some button that took us to the runway and lined us up. We hit the TO/GA button, activate the desired mode of the autopilot according to the instructors directions, vector around, then join our flight plan, couple the autopilot for the approach, go missed, and then take a screen shot of us on the missed approach segment, then that would be evaluated for our grade.

We knew the function of every switch in the cockpit, could read every page of the EICAS and knew where to look,could interpret the PFD and MFD at a glance, could fully operate the mode control panel, could fully manage the FMS, and fly an entire flight profile using the mode control panel.

At three hours a night, in addition to taking tests and quizes, it took sixteen weeks. And we had papers to do too.

I really learned a whole lot from the class. Damn software was $500 though!

I learned

E6BAV8R · February 29th, 2008, 20:49

I took the class jwp speaks of and it is a good asset, although I think Aerosim isn't worth it if you are really just wanting to get the basics - it is rather expensive.

There are some flight sim add-ons that are actually rather good for learning your way around the FMS.

jwp_145 · February 29th, 2008, 23:32

E6B, I went to OSU Tulsa. My professor I had is an engineer at Flight Safety. REALLY knew his stuff! Also co-wrote our Advanced Aerodynamics book.

Did you have Matt Wise in Stilly?

777forever · February 29th, 2008, 23:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwp_145

Well we had checklists for the airplane. Over the course of the sixteen weeks, we learned how to go all the way through the pre-start procedures, engine start, everything involved with operating the systems, correcting any error or alert messages the EICAS was giving us involving some improper switch setting. Then we would take all of the performance data and the flight plan, load it into the computer, and then click some button that took us to the runway and lined us up. We hit the TO/GA button, activate the desired mode of the autopilot according to the instructors directions, vector around, then join our flight plan, couple the autopilot for the approach, go missed, and then take a screen shot of us on the missed approach segment, then that would be evaluated for our grade.

We knew the function of every switch in the cockpit, could read every page of the EICAS and knew where to look,could interpret the PFD and MFD at a glance, could fully operate the mode control panel, could fully manage the FMS, and fly an entire flight profile using the mode control panel.

At three hours a night, in addition to taking tests and quizes, it took sixteen weeks. And we had papers to do too.

I really learned a whole lot from the class. Damn software was $500 though!

I learned

Everytime I here the word paper I cringe and thankful im done with college. That course sounds like a lot of work over a LONG period of time. Glad you learned from it though. Me personally, I got paid to learn that stuff in bout 2 months

Seggy · March 1st, 2008, 00:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwp_145

Well we had checklists for the airplane. Over the course of the sixteen weeks, we learned how to go all the way through the pre-start procedures, engine start, everything involved with operating the systems, correcting any error or alert messages the EICAS was giving us involving some improper switch setting. Then we would take all of the performance data and the flight plan, load it into the computer, and then click some button that took us to the runway and lined us up. We hit the TO/GA button, activate the desired mode of the autopilot according to the instructors directions, vector around, then join our flight plan, couple the autopilot for the approach, go missed, and then take a screen shot of us on the missed approach segment, then that would be evaluated for our grade.

We knew the function of every switch in the cockpit, could read every page of the EICAS and knew where to look,could interpret the PFD and MFD at a glance, could fully operate the mode control panel, could fully manage the FMS, and fly an entire flight profile using the mode control panel.

At three hours a night, in addition to taking tests and quizes, it took sixteen weeks. And we had papers to do too.

I really learned a whole lot from the class. Damn software was $500 though!

I learned

Usually it take about two weeks MAX at an airline to cover that stuff

OldTownPilot · March 1st, 2008, 00:21

If it was 3 hours once a week that would be a "normal" 3 credit college class.

Done full time (6 hours a day) it would take a week and a half.

Sounds about right if that is the case.

jwp_145 · March 1st, 2008, 09:53

Yeah but i didn't spend every waking hour studying this stuff like I would in an airline class... and you have to remember, some of the people in this class weren't the brightest, so it drudged on.

E6BAV8R · March 1st, 2008, 10:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwp_145

E6B, I went to OSU Tulsa. My professor I had is an engineer at Flight Safety. REALLY knew his stuff! Also co-wrote our Advanced Aerodynamics book.

Did you have Matt Wise in Stilly?

Mine was in OSU Stilly, where I go now.

Matt was actually supposed to teach the class but didn't end up doing it for whatever reason. I have met Matt and his wife Jennifer. Awesome lady Jennifer is - took my ME ride with her.

jwp_145 · March 1st, 2008, 10:42

I've taken a few with Jenny. Awesome people they are! When i go back to Tulsa I'll be instructing for Matt.

February 28th, 2008, 10:09	#1
falconvalley Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: KMKE Posts: 1,944	FMS training software Does anyone know where I could get training software for the FMS on the EMB-145? __________________ British Airways flight asks for push back clearance from terminal. Control Tower replies: "And where is the world's most experienced airline going today without filing a flight plan?"

February 28th, 2008, 10:35	#2
BobDDuck Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Left Seat Posts: 5,390	Re: FMS training software I really wouldn't worry about it too much. As long as you understand the basics (and I think you flew the DorkJet your last few months right?) you should be able to adapt to pretty much any FMS system. But to answer your ACTUAL question... sorry, can't help ya. Just boosting my post count. __________________ TBJC08 The Gear Monkey The Gear Monkey Store

February 28th, 2008, 10:54	#3
falconvalley Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: KMKE Posts: 1,944	Re: FMS training software Not worried. Just bored crazy and looking for something to do today. The last time I used an FMS was on a King Air in like 2003. __________________ British Airways flight asks for push back clearance from terminal. Control Tower replies: "And where is the world's most experienced airline going today without filing a flight plan?"

February 28th, 2008, 11:15	#4
TFaudree_ERAU Old Skool Join Date: May 2006 Location: Virginia is for Lovers, yacht chasing on the weekends Posts: 1,787	Re: FMS training software Got flight sim? Yes, I said flight sim. There is a decent aircraft add on that simulates the basic functions of the FMS.

February 28th, 2008, 12:19	#5
Gonzo Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,502	Re: FMS training software One more for flight sim. I found a add on with a full working FMS. __________________ Got helft dem oreman; er farhit im fun tey'ereh avayres. zolst vern azoy rayd almo'nes man zol zid keyn mol nit zorgen vegn perno'se. Or as some say: bareh nit

February 28th, 2008, 23:06	#8
jwp_145 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK USA Posts: 185	Re: FMS training software I had a 16 week cockpit automation course at Oklahoma State, and we used software by AeroSim. Kinda expensive software, but it was an exact replication of every single thing in the cockpit of the CRJ 200. Possible they have the ERJ too.

February 28th, 2008, 23:10	#9
Nick Old Skool Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,214	Re: FMS training software I second the FeelThere software. __________________ Even those who arrange and design shrubberies are under considerable economic stress in this period in history.

February 29th, 2008, 11:23	#10
falconvalley Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: KMKE Posts: 1,944	Re: FMS training software Thanks for the replies! I'll look into that stuff. __________________ British Airways flight asks for push back clearance from terminal. Control Tower replies: "And where is the world's most experienced airline going today without filing a flight plan?"

February 29th, 2008, 17:27	#12
jwp_145 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK USA Posts: 185	Re: FMS training software Well we had checklists for the airplane. Over the course of the sixteen weeks, we learned how to go all the way through the pre-start procedures, engine start, everything involved with operating the systems, correcting any error or alert messages the EICAS was giving us involving some improper switch setting. Then we would take all of the performance data and the flight plan, load it into the computer, and then click some button that took us to the runway and lined us up. We hit the TO/GA button, activate the desired mode of the autopilot according to the instructors directions, vector around, then join our flight plan, couple the autopilot for the approach, go missed, and then take a screen shot of us on the missed approach segment, then that would be evaluated for our grade. We knew the function of every switch in the cockpit, could read every page of the EICAS and knew where to look,could interpret the PFD and MFD at a glance, could fully operate the mode control panel, could fully manage the FMS, and fly an entire flight profile using the mode control panel. At three hours a night, in addition to taking tests and quizes, it took sixteen weeks. And we had papers to do too. I really learned a whole lot from the class. Damn software was $500 though! I learned

February 29th, 2008, 20:49	#13
E6BAV8R Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: OKC Posts: 788	Re: FMS training software I took the class jwp speaks of and it is a good asset, although I think Aerosim isn't worth it if you are really just wanting to get the basics - it is rather expensive. There are some flight sim add-ons that are actually rather good for learning your way around the FMS.

February 29th, 2008, 23:32	#14
jwp_145 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK USA Posts: 185	Re: FMS training software E6B, I went to OSU Tulsa. My professor I had is an engineer at Flight Safety. REALLY knew his stuff! Also co-wrote our Advanced Aerodynamics book. Did you have Matt Wise in Stilly?

March 1st, 2008, 00:21	#17
OldTownPilot Old Skool Join Date: May 2005 Location: BGR (Bangor, ME) Posts: 2,881 Blog Entries: 4	Re: FMS training software If it was 3 hours once a week that would be a "normal" 3 credit college class. Done full time (6 hours a day) it would take a week and a half. Sounds about right if that is the case. __________________ As a wise man said, sumb!tch flew in, sumb!tch'll fly out. Ski Hard. Party Harder.

March 1st, 2008, 09:53	#18
jwp_145 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK USA Posts: 185	Re: FMS training software Yeah but i didn't spend every waking hour studying this stuff like I would in an airline class... and you have to remember, some of the people in this class weren't the brightest, so it drudged on.

March 1st, 2008, 10:42	#20
jwp_145 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK USA Posts: 185	Re: FMS training software I've taken a few with Jenny. Awesome people they are! When i go back to Tulsa I'll be instructing for Matt.

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