Please help me someone

johnnybravo24111 · February 25th, 2008, 20:56

I am a fairly new pilot....well I am new.....got my commercial in 2006 but only flew with my brothers and friends in the Bahamas right seat. I have since relocated to Georgia and is finding it most difficult to find a job. everyone is asking for a million hours; and since i only have about 800 no one is willing to give me a chance. Could someone tell me where is the best place to get started, even if it means very minimum salary? Most people suggest i get my CFI but since I am not working to be able to pay for it, I'm at a dead end. Is there anyone who would even be willing to put me on a kite and pay me a salary....if so, who are they....where do I start.

Jason.

SteveC · February 25th, 2008, 21:29

<Moved from "You're the captain..." forum to General.

FiveO · February 25th, 2008, 21:32

I'm a little lost. You say you are a new pilot but you have your commercial and 800 hours? And of those 800 hours they were flown right seat with your brothers and friends in the Bahamas?

Piperflyer · February 25th, 2008, 21:36

Im a little confused also.
but couldn't you fly right seat for Airnet if you don't want to go the cfi route

bdhill1979 · February 25th, 2008, 21:37

half the regional airlines in the US would probably hire you if your skills are sharp.

higney85 · February 25th, 2008, 21:55

Georgia..hmmm ...ASA?

Kristie · February 25th, 2008, 23:40

with 800 hours, you shouldn't be having too much trouble getting a job. is it that you're not willing to relocate or do you not have all your ratings?

Also, just as an FYI, it's typically better to use a more descriptive title like "need help locating job" or something along those lines instead of "please help".

Welcome to the board.

FiveO · February 25th, 2008, 23:43

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Originally Posted by Kristie

Also, just as an FYI, it's typically better to use a more descriptive title like "need help locating job" or something along those lines instead of "please help".

Funny you say that. At first when I clicked on it I was thinking someone busted a FAR or something and needed help.

Kristie · February 26th, 2008, 00:12

when i see it, i see "emergency", hurt or injured or who knows what.

madmax · February 26th, 2008, 00:20

Do you have your Multi-Engine ratings? Because if you have 800total and some Multi you're way ahead of most people trying to get into the industry.

goredbirds · February 26th, 2008, 00:28

The current competitive minimums for regional airline jobs are commercial, multi, instrument, and a pulse.

If you logged a bunch of right seat time in the Bahamas as PIC or SIC you'd better have a darn good reason, 'cause they'll jump all over you for it in the interview if it's not properly logged.

Good reasons include: AC was certified as a two pilot airplane, or FAR you were operating under required two pilots, or company ops specs required two pilots.

Bad reasons include: My buddy asked me to go along, or I got paid to sit there even though there was no such requirement, or I was required by insurance. (Insurance doesn't count as a requirement as far as the FARs are concerned)

You might be able to get away with claiming "safety pilot" time, which is loggable as PIC according to FAR, but looks a little fishy to the interview board.

Hope this helps!

falconvalley · February 26th, 2008, 10:11

Jason,

You may be coming across the wrong way to your potential employers. Go in with the attitude that you're looking for a job and that you are going to find someone that is looking for a pilot like you. If you have to, get a non-pilot job to help cover the cost of becoming a CFI. Teaching can have a tremendously good effect on your flying. You'll get there and you likely won't take as long as me (5 years from CFI to the left seat of a Baron). Besides, you need to keep flying to stay sharp and even flight training is good.

johnnybravo24111 · February 29th, 2008, 23:03

yes because when i became i pilot, i was still employed as a police officer in the bahamas so i never really had a job flying. so i went with them ll the time every chance i got. 2 brothers who are pilots and basically everyone they knew I knew so i had many oportunities to flyright seat with no hassle. The good thing is, i met lots of guys who cared about me learning so they always made me fly the empty legs.

johnnybravo24111 · February 29th, 2008, 23:05

this is the advise im looking for.....i've only been here a month or so and never even heard of airnet.........remember...i just relocated to the united states from the bahamas. but thanks for the idea.....will be sure to look them up

johnnybravo24111 · February 29th, 2008, 23:07

thanks for your help....i appreciate it.

johnnybravo24111 · February 29th, 2008, 23:10

well i'm screwed because a designated examiner told me when i was doing my instrument check ride that as long as i have my hands on the yoke im building time.....but i guess he mislead me with that because that is how i built my time by flying with guys who own their own airplanes and they let me fly empty legs.

goredbirds · February 29th, 2008, 23:23

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Originally Posted by johnnybravo24111

well i'm screwed because a designated examiner told me when i was doing my instrument check ride that as long as i have my hands on the yoke im building time.....but i guess he mislead me with that because that is how i built my time by flying with guys who own their own airplanes and they let me fly empty legs.

What kind of airplane was it, and what was the operation. These are the important questions to ask when you can't figure out whether you logged something illegally or not.

Don't give up yet!

beechpilot · March 1st, 2008, 09:58

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Originally Posted by johnnybravo24111

well i'm screwed because a designated examiner told me when i was doing my instrument check ride that as long as i have my hands on the yoke im building time.....but i guess he mislead me with that because that is how i built my time by flying with guys who own their own airplanes and they let me fly empty legs.

Flying empty legs isn't a bad thing. Especially if it's multi time. Like others have said, 800 hours oughta get you an interview with the regionals.

PatrickCPS · March 1st, 2008, 19:51

What were you flying on these empty legs and were you rated to fly the aircraft?