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February 23rd, 2008, 15:28
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| Old Skool  Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Santa Clarita, CA
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  |  Hope ya'll are having fun flying! With all the merger talk and with the economy the way it is right now, I would think that hiring will slow remarkably. I just hope that everyone that isn't already in the 121 or 135 ranks yet, I hope that you are at least enjoying flying. The source for all this is when Jtrain and I spent 3+ hours in lovely SoCal traffic going to see ready2fly about 30 miles away. Jtrain was thinking of exiting Ameriflight at that point and with all that was going on with him personally he told me to enjoy the flying part of the adventure. Now I can see what point he was getting at. If you rush to meet those mins and it don't get hired, you'll probably have a , undeserved, f'd up attitude towards aviation. Personally, I wouldn't even fathom an occupation in flying whether charter, airline, or cargo if I couldn't be honest with myself and say I enjoy flying as a weekend warrior. Sorry for the rant, but I hope we are all in it for the love of aviation and not just the job/stigma. P.S. - The love of aviation doesn't mean settling for sub-par wages 
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February 23rd, 2008, 17:31
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| Old Skool  Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Park City, UT
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 | Re: Hope ya'll are having fun flying! Word up, holmes.
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February 23rd, 2008, 17:53
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| Old Skool  Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: People's Republic of Boulder
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| Re: Hope ya'll are having fun flying! Holla!
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February 23rd, 2008, 21:36
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| Junior Member  Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Boulder, Colorado
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| Re: Hope ya'll are having fun flying! Exactly! CFI and loving it. Today gave a lesson with a retired international 74 captain in the back of my 172. His son is one my best students ever. It all comes full circle. It was kinda of like CFI checkride #2, I was a little nervous. -Jason www.flyboulder.com CFI/II ~600TT |
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February 24th, 2008, 00:02
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| Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: _
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| Re: Hope ya'll are having fun flying! That's funny, one of the worst guys I ever flew with was a son of a 747 CA. His dad offered to bribe me to solo him. I'm not joking. P.S. I didn't take the bribe.
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February 24th, 2008, 00:31
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| Re: Hope ya'll are having fun flying! Quote:
  I suck at drawing and my Dad is an Architect. I thought I was going to be as good as Frank Lloyd Wright???? Darn.
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February 24th, 2008, 02:50
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| Senior Member  Join Date: May 2005 Location: at work
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| Re: Hope ya'll are having fun flying! Yup, I still fly for fun on my days off. Taildragers are my new addiction... Ive had a lot of students that dont really like flying, they just want to be airline pilots. If youre not enjoying working your way up in this business, why do it at all? It just wouldn't be worth it to me if I didn't love flying.
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February 24th, 2008, 02:53
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| Agent Smith  | Re: Hope ya'll are having fun flying! You know, I knew a couple of guys that didn't like flying but they were after the lifestyle. It was kind of weird. I'd love to get a glider or rotary rating, but I'm too busy playing 'high school principal" online these days.
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February 24th, 2008, 03:18
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  | Re: Hope ya'll are having fun flying! Quote:
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February 24th, 2008, 07:00
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| Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Boulder, Colorado
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| Re: Hope ya'll are having fun flying! My aviation dreams started with ultralights. I never actually flew one, I was just trying to figure out a way to get into the air. I was all ready to do the gyro copter thing too but the more research I did on these things the less practical (and more dangerous) it seemed. Somewhere in all this research I found jetcareers and learned that I could actually make a career out flying. I don't have any family that flies and at the time I didn't know a single person that even had a private pilots license. Now, I have a pretty good group of guys I fly with that really have a passion. I worked at a fairly large flight school for a little while and was a little turned off by the atmosphere. I was thinking about flying a lot more than I was thinking "airline pilot". People need to ask themselves why they are doing what they are doing. Motivations seem to be a pretty good gauge of the satisfaction one will get out of the job. I have a few friends that took 9-5 jobs out of college purely so they could make money. When that didn't happen and they realized they were working 60-80 hour weeks for 40 grand the disappointment set in. I am gonna start skydiving this next month. I wonder how many else on this site are into skydiving? There are a few airline/corporate guys at the local dz. Certainly cheaper than flying, but again not quite as practical. -Jason www.flyboulder.com Forums is hard work! You guys do a great job. I really appreciate it! Not quite as relevant to jc, but a funny internet video http://www.videojug.com/film/how-to-...internet-forum |
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February 24th, 2008, 07:38
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| Re: Hope ya'll are having fun flying! Quote:
I'd really like to take it up as a hobby this summer. Just not sure if I'll have the time or extra money available. The parallels between skydiving and flying as a pilot are almost eery to me. Both have the same reasons why people *don't* do them...usually a lack of time or money. Both of them have the same elements involved with safety. Skydiving is as safe as a particular jumper makes it. Skydivers "preflight" their equipment the same way pilots inspect aircraft. Skydivers use CRM the same as pilots, coordinating with each other and with the jump pilot as far as how they'll exit, what altitude they plan to pull at, etc. With both activities, if a guy let's his guard down, it's very possible to get hurt. Skydivers get grumpy if they go a few weeks without jumping, same as pilots who go without flying. Both are addictions. Both are perceived by the public to be dangerous, when in reality both are very safe. The skydiving world is a very small world, just like flying. You know how a lot of pilots know each other, like, two pilots are talking and one mentions how they used to work at airport XYZ and it turns out they both knew the same flight school manager, or whatever? Skydiving is the same way. All the jumpmasters, drop zone owners, etc. know each other. I could list more. Bottom line is, it cracks me up while working at the DZ because the things I see and hear make me feel like I'm in a parallel universe a lot of the time.
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February 24th, 2008, 11:58
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| Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Santa Clarita, CA
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| Re: Hope ya'll are having fun flying! After my instrument I'm definitely getting my tailwheel and contemplating ratings to fly helicopters.
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February 24th, 2008, 12:27
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| Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: People's Republic of Boulder
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| Re: Hope ya'll are having fun flying! Floats, gliders, ultralights, helicopters are all on the list! Just gotta make more money! I have my tailwheel, but very few hours 
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February 24th, 2008, 12:35
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| Old Skool  Join Date: May 2002 Location: Maryland
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| Re: Hope ya'll are having fun flying! Quote:
He went and got a glider rating and he said that was the most fun flying he's ever done. | |
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February 24th, 2008, 15:09
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| Re: Hope ya'll are having fun flying! He's absolutely right. Thermalling with a falcon on your wing is an amazing experience. |
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February 24th, 2008, 19:12
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| Old Skool  Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: KMKE
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| Re: Hope ya'll are having fun flying! You got that right! 
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February 24th, 2008, 20:29
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| Old Skool  Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: DSM
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| Re: Hope ya'll are having fun flying! ahh just my luck. When I graduate college in 2 years with all my ratings (hopefully) there will be no CFI jobs cause nobody will be going anywhere
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February 24th, 2008, 20:54
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| Old Skool  Join Date: May 2005 Location: DFW
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| Re: Hope ya'll are having fun flying! Oh don't worry. I can assure you that there will be flight schools around training tons of foreign students. And since the US is one of the cheapest places to do training, the market will continue to sizzle.
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February 25th, 2008, 01:44
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| Junior Member  Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Baton Rouge, LA
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| Re: Hope ya'll are having fun flying! I agree, not to mention that more than likely, the airlines will still be hiring. We aren't looking at another 9-11. Things will probably slow, but not completely hault. The way I see it, DAL had orders for more planes. NWA has orders for planes. DAL is hiring, NWA is hiring, and is doing so, with figuring the DC-9 retirements, CAL just added to it's airplane order, AirTran has orders, SWA, etc. Not to mention, in 5 years, the retirement issue, will once again, be an issue; and will be somewhat of an issue, still, although not to the extent it could be, sans age 65. I doubt we will see 80 pilots per month, being hired at airlines, which isn't really normal anyway, but there will still be movement. Quote:
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February 27th, 2008, 13:23
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| Old Skool  Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Memphis, TN
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| Re: Hope ya'll are having fun flying! Quote:
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February 27th, 2008, 14:09
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| Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: People's Republic of Boulder
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| Re: Hope ya'll are having fun flying! Quote:
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