I killed 50 people today

[granlistillo]

or at least bent some metal...

First time in the sim, and things were going good with the landings. Kick off the autopilot down low on the ILS and then:fifty... forty... thirty...twenty... ten

Got a little big for my britches and thought i would hand fly the ILS. Got a little slow and little low. If you guys ever hear this go around!:

"sinkrate fiftfortwenten"

If not BAM, red screen follows...

Gotta say full motion sims are a lot of fun.

[CirrusMonkey]

Phew! Was wondering what your thread title meant. I get my chance in STL on the 19th for the CRJ 200.

[granlistillo]

dude we are class mates. I just left dayton. PM me if you have any questions. About STL or the sim...

[BCTAv8r]

Lol, I thought this was gonna be about something else.

[meyers9163]

Oh lordy... not a red screen! Man I bet no one here on JC has ever gotten one of those before!

[ILSstud]

I got to play around in a sim a few times last month. Let's see how my "red screen of death experience went.."

ILS to minimums, with 25 knot crosswind and then windshear at 400 feet. When the GPWS merges with every other possible annunciator you know your in troubled waters...

WINDSHEAR WINDSHEAR TERRAIN TERRAIN MINIMUMS TOO LOW PULL UP 30...20....BAM! ........RED SCREEN

fun times though

[OldTownPilot]

I was in a MD-11 sim thanks to Pengy.

I landed just like the FedEx pilots do.


ohhhh bad joke, sorry

[Nick]

Originally Posted by OldTownPilot

I was in a MD-11 sim thanks to Pengy.

I landed just like the FedEx pilots do.


ohhhh bad joke, sorry

[ClearedForOption]

I got severe Windshear for the first time in my sim session tonight.... followed the FD, got sinking calls, pulled up into the feather, got the stick shaker, firewalled the thrust levers, pitched down a tiny bit, and then got a positive rate call.

Whew... what a workout. Thought I was going to be a lawn dart there for a minute and pulled out a save at the last second.

My checkride is in two days and things are finally starting to come together. The "Surge" is a beast and I am darn glad that I flew a 1900 before coming here.

[SoCalAprch]

Originally Posted by ClearedForOption

I got severe Windshear for the first time in my sim session tonight.... followed the FD, got sinking calls, pulled up into the feather, got the stick shaker, firewalled the thrust levers, pitched down a tiny bit, and then got a positive rate call.

Whew... what a workout. Thought I was going to be a lawn dart there for a minute and pulled out a save at the last second.

My checkride is in two days and things are finally starting to come together. The "Surge" is a beast and I am darn glad that I flew a 1900 before coming here.

So you don't think you could have made it through without the 1900 time? In our Erj class we had everything from instructors to F16 pilots and a retired 777 capt. (getting qualified to instruct) going through and everyone was learning at the same rate. Its a new plane to everyone.

If you haven't gotten the red screen you haven't been in the sim enough! Just ask to see an aileron runaway with a pitch trim runaway at the same time at 200 ft. You will see the red screen and it will scare the pants off of you.

[SmitteyB]

I didn't get the red screen of death, but...

I got a V1 cut with a negative autocoarsen on the SAAB. We ended up getting +50fpm and I called gear up in hopes of getting rid of some drag. Well it turns out we also had an APR failure and we ended up "crashing" on the belly and sliding to a stop...the sim shook like hell, but never went red.

For those of you who don't know-

Auto Coarsen...if we lose an engine the AC computer will kick the blade to a high pitch setting. (Ie- Auto FEATHER)

APR- Automatic Power Reserve...when AC computer tells the blade to feather (more complicated than that) the OPERATING engine will increase torque by 7%.

The SAAB is awesome.

[Firebird2XC]

Originally Posted by SmitteyB

I didn't get the red screen of death, but...

I got a V1 cut with a negative autocoarsen on the SAAB. We ended up getting +50fpm and I called gear up in hopes of getting rid of some drag. Well it turns out we also had an APR failure and we ended up "crashing" on the belly and sliding to a stop...the sim shook like hell, but never went red.

...
...
The SAAB is awesome.

Too bad it's underpowered. A 1900 would've made it.

Nyah nyah!


j/k

[Kingairer]

Dont forget about the crew. You simulatedly killed 53 plus a jumpseater (sim guy).

[Cheechako]

I have a "friend" who crashed so hard in the sim one of the side access panels went flying off into the sim bay. . . .

[pilot_man]

Originally Posted by Cheechako

I have a "friend" who crashed so hard in the sim one of the side access panels went flying off into the sim bay. . . .

Haha yeah.....a "friend" right lol

[granlistillo]

Originally Posted by Kingairer

Dont forget about the crew. You simulatedly killed 53 plus a jumpseater (sim guy).

Good point, and heaven forbid lap children. I guess I had to arbitrarily pick fifty or we wouldnt be able to carry enough gas to taxi out.


No red screens today though

[ClearedForOption]

Originally Posted by SoCalAprch

So you don't think you could have made it through without the 1900 time? In our Erj class we had everything from instructors to F16 pilots and a retired 777 capt. (getting qualified to instruct) going through and everyone was learning at the same rate. Its a new plane to everyone.

If you haven't gotten the red screen you haven't been in the sim enough! Just ask to see an aileron runaway with a pitch trim runaway at the same time at 200 ft. You will see the red screen and it will scare the pants off of you.

I appreciate my 1900 time because of the 121 experience and all of the hand flying. I'm learning something new every day and flying the 1900 made me a much better pilot today than I was yesterday. I'm not one of those people that are saying that you should be required to fly a "screwer" before you can fly a "blower" - i'm just glad I had the opportunity to fly both.

I've red-screened it a few times in the last week - coffin corner deep stall at FL410, dragged a wingtip, and one or two other things while in training.

Yesterday was just a good day because everything is starting to click with me and I'm confident I will do well on the checkride tomorrow.

[BobDDuck]

Just so ya'll know, unless they've DRASTICALLY changed the training profile, there are VERY few cases you should be getting the sim to red screen.

It's not... normal.

[B767Driver]

Originally Posted by granlistillo

or at least bent some metal...

First time in the sim, and things were going good with the landings. Kick off the autopilot down low on the ILS and then:fifty... forty... thirty...twenty... ten

Got a little big for my britches and thought i would hand fly the ILS. Got a little slow and little low. If you guys ever hear this go around!:

"sinkrate fiftfortwenten"

If not BAM, red screen follows...

Gotta say full motion sims are a lot of fun.

I guess I have to say I'm not following you. If you are a professional pilot that should not happen...and definitely should not be a lot of fun.

I'm old school...but I always walk into the simulator as if it is the real thing.

True story. At one former airline...we finally got authorization to conduct checkrides in the simulator. I was giving a checkride one day and the FAA came to observe. The captain was goofing off a bit...not taking it very seriously. The FAA stopped the checkride, gave a brief dissertation on the psychology of the simulator and made the crew reschedule their checkride. He refused to continue!!

[meyers9163]

Originally Posted by BobDDuck

Just so ya'll know, unless they've DRASTICALLY changed the training profile, there are VERY few cases you should be getting the sim to red screen.

It's not... normal.

Eh I dunno Ethan... I mean when its your first flight and all and you are trying to land the thing people tend to get the wind strike or a sink rate trying to land it. Its just that different perspective that a lot arent use to. the flight safety guys said its normally on the first few sims for people to do that. I dunno though.....

[ClearedForOption]

Originally Posted by BobDDuck

Just so ya'll know, unless they've DRASTICALLY changed the training profile, there are VERY few cases you should be getting the sim to red screen.

It's not... normal.

There are a couple of "accidents" programmed into the sim so that we can experience what happened to other crews. Plus we had a couple of demos that didn't go according to plan... the sim kicked off motion, controls released, and a few seconds later.... red. But, I think that normally it wouldn't happen except we have new instructors in an unfamilier sim.

Anyhoo... mock checkride went great. Told that as long as I perform the same way tomorrow as I have for the last two days I should pass. Yippee!

[NJT916]

Originally Posted by granlistillo

Good point, and heaven forbid lap children.

..and the cute little puppy in the baggage area.

[BobDDuck]

Originally Posted by meyers9163

Eh I dunno Ethan... I mean when its your first flight and all and you are trying to land the thing people tend to get the wind strike or a sink rate trying to land it. Its just that different perspective that a lot arent use to. the flight safety guys said its normally on the first few sims for people to do that. I dunno though.....

And maybe that right there is the difference in 500 hours?

In my new hire class of 8, the only crashes anybody had were during wind shear recoveries. No "first time" landings. No "demos" that got out of control.

As I said, maybe the profile has changed.

[Pilot877]

Originally Posted by BobDDuck

Just so ya'll know, unless they've DRASTICALLY changed the training profile, there are VERY few cases you should be getting the sim to red screen.

It's not... normal.

True.

[SD3Dog]

Originally Posted by CirrusMonkey

Phew! Was wondering what your thread title meant. I get my chance in STL on the 19th for the CRJ 200.

Who are you with? I am going to STL for traning soon. RAH