New JetBlue Mins - Hope for Helo bubbas?

[PCL_128]

Velo, we had two Captains at Pinnacle that did the same. One of the pilots I represented in DTW got denied by one of these CAs, and he came up to me in the crew lounge one day demanding that I do something about it. My response was simple: "I'm sorry that you got denied the jumpseat. I don't think he should be denying our pilots, but it is his jumpseat. I'm sorry, but his authority over his jumpseat is absolute." Of course, this pilot didn't like that answer, and he probably didn't vote for me in the next election, but it is in compliance with ALPA jumpseat policy and the principles of Captain's authority. Like Velo said, just say "thanks anyway," and find another flight.

[Fins Up]

Sounds like there are some out there who have no sympathy for commuters of any airline - even their own. That's pretty crappy. As you say, it is his jumpseat. Guess some guys are comforable with being though.

[jynxyjoe]

Helo's *shiver* too many moving parts! I'm a chicken#### though.

[OldTownPilot]

not a fan of the Jesus nut eh?

[kellwolf]

Originally Posted by PCL_128

Velo, we had two Captains at Pinnacle that did the same. One of the pilots I represented in DTW got denied by one of these CAs, and he came up to me in the crew lounge one day demanding that I do something about it. My response was simple: "I'm sorry that you got denied the jumpseat. I don't think he should be denying our pilots, but it is his jumpseat. I'm sorry, but his authority over his jumpseat is absolute." Of course, this pilot didn't like that answer, and he probably didn't vote for me in the next election, but it is in compliance with ALPA jumpseat policy and the principles of Captain's authority. Like Velo said, just say "thanks anyway," and find another flight.

I think one of those CAs is still in MEM.....

[PCL_128]

Originally Posted by kellwolf

I think one of those CAs is still in MEM.....

Yep.

[Velocipede]

Isn't it funny that only a non-Union puke would describe a Captain who is exercising his perogatives of command as an "ahole". Sounds like someone who thinks he's ENTITLED to a jumpseat anywhere anytime just because he has a pilot's license.

Perhaps if he wasn't actively stabbing the entire piloting profession in the back, people would be more amenable to his request.

[WestIndian425]

Originally Posted by Velocipede

We used to have a Capt. who refused the jumpseat to ONLINE pilots. His rationale, "I don't ask for the jumpseat, so I don't give the jumpseat."

Some here may say he was an , but he was 100% correct according to OUR company regs and Section 115. All you can do is say "Thanks, anyway" and go to your next option.

Dang!! And I thought you were tough!

[DE727UPS]

"Sounds like someone who thinks he's ENTITLED to a jumpseat anywhere anytime just because he has a pilot's license."

No worse than someone who thinks he's ENTITLED to bump a jumpseater for his own person reasons outside industry accepted norms. Knock yerself out, Velo. Your ideas are going nowhere......

[SkyCougar]

Originally Posted by jynxyjoe

Helo's *shiver* too many moving parts! I'm a chicken#### though.

So educate me then! Does that mean that Helo pilots are the right stuff? Funny, how you wouldn't know it by popular culture, but it's becoming clear to me now. My cousin Donald, flew helos in Vietnam, and apparently came home a war hero and won some awards, but we only knew that because my Auntie told us. He sure didn't tell us. He just came on home, had a BBQ with us, and then went off to fly for Delta. He's retired now.

[PCL_128]

Originally Posted by DE727UPS

"Sounds like someone who thinks he's ENTITLED to a jumpseat anywhere anytime just because he has a pilot's license."

No worse than someone who thinks he's ENTITLED to bump a jumpseater for his own person reasons outside industry accepted norms. Knock yerself out, Velo. Your ideas are going nowhere......

The difference, of course, is that Velo is 100% correct. He is entitled to do whatever the hell he wants to do with his jumpseat.

[Fins Up]

Originally Posted by Velocipede

Isn't it funny that only a non-Union puke would describe a Captain who is exercising his perogatives of command as an "ahole". Sounds like someone who thinks he's ENTITLED to a jumpseat anywhere anytime just because he has a pilot's license.

Perhaps if he wasn't actively stabbing the entire piloting profession in the back, people would be more amenable to his request.

If a CA denies a pilot for his own company the use of a jumpseat because he "would never ask to use it" himself then yes, he is being a jerk. Sure there are many good reasons to say no - IOE, checkride, MEL, whatever. But just doing it just because you don't want any witnesses to how you treat your FO is pretty low.

[Fins Up]

How does the saying go? Helos don't really fly. They're just so ugly the earth repels them.