$6.23 for fuel

mhcasey · January 14th, 2008, 17:49

At KAUS for 100LL. WTF? Seriously...it's $3.60 at T74 (25ish miles), $4 at GTU (20ish miles), $4.25 at 50R (20ish miles). How are the FBOs at Austin getting away with such murder, and what can I do to change this?

killbilly · January 14th, 2008, 17:52

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Originally Posted by mhcasey

At KAUS for 100LL. WTF? Seriously...it's $3.60 at T74 (25ish miles), $4 at GTU (20ish miles), $4.25 at 50R (20ish miles). How are the FBOs at Austin getting away with such murder, and what can I do to change this?

I've gotten the impression that AUS isn't too GA-friendly, honestly.

Then again, the FBO at TKI where I fly is charging around $5 per gallon for 100LL.

Chris_Ford · January 14th, 2008, 17:55

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Originally Posted by mhcasey

How are the FBOs at Austin getting away with such murder, and what can I do to change this?

Well, you see, people are willing to pay it (or they don't want them anyway) so it works.

Feel free to not patronize them or do not buy their fuel.

ackeight · January 14th, 2008, 17:57

That's nothing. It's close to $7 at new orleans. not including state taxes.

LoadMasterC141 · January 14th, 2008, 17:58

Aww c'mon Mike, you know AUS sucks for GA. Larger airports tend to always charge more than smaller GA-type fields, but AUS is ALWAYS the highest.

Its' $3.99 in Temple right now. I flew down to McAllen yesterday, it was $4.89, then over to College Station last night, it was $4.70.

WAFlyBoy · January 14th, 2008, 18:31

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Originally Posted by mhcasey

and what can I do to change this?

Don't buy gas there, especially if you have many good alternatives.

killbilly · January 14th, 2008, 18:37

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Originally Posted by WAFlyBoy

Don't buy gas there, especially if you have many good alternatives.

That's the problem. He doesn't have a lot of alternatives.

I'm amazed that Austin proper has one airport and really, only one FBO/Flight School outside of the University Flying Club. You have to go up to Georgetown or down to San Marcos for a smaller airport which is GA-friendly. I looked at the sectional this weekend and there's apparently a field near Lake Travis, but I don't know much about it.

SIUav8er · January 14th, 2008, 18:37

Its cause alot of FBO's at the larger airports dont like the piston engines. They usually dont buy a lot of gas, and they almost never purchase any other services. They just want to get rid of the recreational flyers that come in and buy 10 gallons, take the courtesy car for a couple hours and tie up ramp space.

Just dont buy fuel there if theres so many other options close by!

BigGuyFlying · January 14th, 2008, 18:42

Signature @ KPIE is $6.00 while Sheltair is $6.15... Ridiculous...

mhcasey · January 14th, 2008, 18:49

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Originally Posted by SIUav8er

Just dont buy fuel there if theres so many other options close by!

Believe me, if it was just me I wouldn't. But 99.9% of the time I'm flying with a student in someone else's airplane. My problem is aircraft rental rates either have to continue to go up, or I have to figure out some way to encourage students to take an extra few ticks on the hobbs to fill up at a nearby airport.

Basically my question is should I appeal to the FBOs themselves in hopes of at least getting a flight school discount, the airport management, the Austin City Council, or someone else to lobby to improve this situation?

NightCargo · January 14th, 2008, 19:21

LAS is charging $7.30/gal for 100LL now!!!

ackeight · January 14th, 2008, 20:17

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Originally Posted by SIUav8er

Its cause alot of FBO's at the larger airports dont like the piston engines. They usually dont buy a lot of gas, and they almost never purchase any other services. They just want to get rid of the recreational flyers that come in and buy 10 gallons, take the courtesy car for a couple hours and tie up ramp space.

Just dont buy fuel there if theres so many other options close by!

That $7 w/o tax was for jet A in MSY

mooneyguy · January 14th, 2008, 20:25

Lago vista just north of the lake was the lowest price for 100ll in the austin area. 100ll is showing them at $3.79. its not that far from kaus

JDE · January 14th, 2008, 20:31

When your only options are Signature and Atlantic, plan on getting screwed. Both places are notorious for their rape fees and high fuel prices. Too bad AUS doesn't have another choice. But it is what it is and there isn't much we can do about it.

daru1 · January 14th, 2008, 20:32

Vested interest in both...

New Orleans is just going to be ridiculous for a while, and there's no oil boom coming from the gulf until the lease sales have started to yield gains for the industry. In other words, more of our (my hometown) gas is coming from much further away than it did before the storm. Couple that with the overriding theme that people that have money are the ones flying the planes, so they'll pay for it anyway attitude, and you have what's going on there.

Austin faltered in 2004, if anyone remembers Alliance... great prices at first, but once the airport figured they weren't making much off of GA and the 'Hey, KGTU might as well be called Austin Regional attitude...' it was only a matter of time. It's a very sad affair, I moved from Galveston in 2004, and it was way cheaper to fly here than in the HGX area. My, how times have changed. You can't get in a 180hp+ airplane at KAUS for less than $139/hr. Compare that with the $85/hr I was paying in 2004, that's a pretty big increase I'd say.

Itchy · January 14th, 2008, 21:08

Not to be the "sky is falling type", but there will come a time in the not to distant future when those will seem like bargain prices.

It's coming.

qflyer · January 14th, 2008, 21:49

Highest I've ever paid was today at Hill Aircraft at FTY in Atlanta @ $6.30/gal. I can still get it for 3.15 at the Army Airfield I fly out of though

Ramsey · January 15th, 2008, 04:55

Just over $10.00 here! That blows!!

BenWlson · January 15th, 2008, 09:03

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Originally Posted by killbilly

That's the problem. He doesn't have a lot of alternatives.

I'm amazed that Austin proper has one airport and really, only one FBO/Flight School outside of the University Flying Club. You have to go up to Georgetown or down to San Marcos for a smaller airport which is GA-friendly. I looked at the sectional this weekend and there's apparently a field near Lake Travis, but I don't know much about it.

Austin really needs a second airport for GA. Ever since Austin Mueller closed down, Austin-Bergstrom has been able to charge whatever they want.

I hate to see when any airport disappears.
http://www.airfields-freeman.com/TX/..._W.htm#mueller
http://www.ci.austin.tx.us/mueller/
http://muelleraustin.com

January 14th, 2008, 17:49	#1
mhcasey Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Austin Posts: 477	$6.23 for fuel At KAUS for 100LL. WTF? Seriously...it's $3.60 at T74 (25ish miles), $4 at GTU (20ish miles), $4.25 at 50R (20ish miles). How are the FBOs at Austin getting away with such murder, and what can I do to change this? __________________ Please help me in the fight against cancer by asking me about the Texas 4000 for Cancer or by visiting our website at http://www.texas4000.org/.

January 14th, 2008, 17:57	#4
ackeight Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: K.C. Posts: 290	Re: $6.23 for fuel That's nothing. It's close to $7 at new orleans. not including state taxes.

January 14th, 2008, 17:58	#5
LoadMasterC141 Old Skool Join Date: May 2006 Location: Live in Temple, TX - From Ithaca, NY - Wish I was on an island in Fiji Posts: 1,898	Re: $6.23 for fuel Aww c'mon Mike, you know AUS sucks for GA. Larger airports tend to always charge more than smaller GA-type fields, but AUS is ALWAYS the highest. Its' $3.99 in Temple right now. I flew down to McAllen yesterday, it was $4.89, then over to College Station last night, it was $4.70.

January 14th, 2008, 18:37	#8
SIUav8er Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: at work Posts: 909	Re: $6.23 for fuel Its cause alot of FBO's at the larger airports dont like the piston engines. They usually dont buy a lot of gas, and they almost never purchase any other services. They just want to get rid of the recreational flyers that come in and buy 10 gallons, take the courtesy car for a couple hours and tie up ramp space. Just dont buy fuel there if theres so many other options close by! __________________ Commercial Pilot, CE-500 Gold Seal CFI.II.MEI IGI Future GoJet Pilot.

January 14th, 2008, 18:42	#9
BigGuyFlying Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Palm Harbor, FL Posts: 105	Re: $6.23 for fuel Signature @ KPIE is $6.00 while Sheltair is $6.15... Ridiculous... __________________ "Nobody built like you, you designed yourself."

January 14th, 2008, 19:21	#11
NightCargo Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: WA Posts: 89	Re: $6.23 for fuel LAS is charging $7.30/gal for 100LL now!!!

January 14th, 2008, 20:25	#13
mooneyguy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Antonio TX Posts: 470	Re: $6.23 for fuel Lago vista just north of the lake was the lowest price for 100ll in the austin area. 100ll is showing them at $3.79. its not that far from kaus __________________ FLY SAFE <>< Tim CMEL CSEL CFI CFII http://desiretofly.blogspot.com/

January 14th, 2008, 20:31	#14
JDE Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 1,447	Re: $6.23 for fuel When your only options are Signature and Atlantic, plan on getting screwed. Both places are notorious for their rape fees and high fuel prices. Too bad AUS doesn't have another choice. But it is what it is and there isn't much we can do about it. __________________ Jason Pics from the road - updated 01-24-08

January 14th, 2008, 20:32	#15
daru1 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Austin Posts: 80	Re: $6.23 for fuel Vested interest in both... New Orleans is just going to be ridiculous for a while, and there's no oil boom coming from the gulf until the lease sales have started to yield gains for the industry. In other words, more of our (my hometown) gas is coming from much further away than it did before the storm. Couple that with the overriding theme that people that have money are the ones flying the planes, so they'll pay for it anyway attitude, and you have what's going on there. Austin faltered in 2004, if anyone remembers Alliance... great prices at first, but once the airport figured they weren't making much off of GA and the 'Hey, KGTU might as well be called Austin Regional attitude...' it was only a matter of time. It's a very sad affair, I moved from Galveston in 2004, and it was way cheaper to fly here than in the HGX area. My, how times have changed. You can't get in a 180hp+ airplane at KAUS for less than $139/hr. Compare that with the $85/hr I was paying in 2004, that's a pretty big increase I'd say. __________________ UTMB School of Medicine Class of 2006 "Real pilots don't bitch, they fly." ©

January 14th, 2008, 21:08	#16
Itchy Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 135	Re: $6.23 for fuel Not to be the "sky is falling type", but there will come a time in the not to distant future when those will seem like bargain prices. It's coming.

January 14th, 2008, 21:49	#17
qflyer Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 37	Re: $6.23 for fuel Highest I've ever paid was today at Hill Aircraft at FTY in Atlanta @ $6.30/gal. I can still get it for 3.15 at the Army Airfield I fly out of though

January 15th, 2008, 04:55	#18
Ramsey Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Ramstein Air Base, Germany; LH 747-400 SIM Posts: 489	Re: $6.23 for fuel Just over $10.00 here! That blows!!

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