Yes, another four year degree post...

Seggy · January 9th, 2008, 00:04

Talking to a recruiter at Colgan who is friends with a lot of the recruiters at the majors, they said at a few recruiter meetings at the AIRINC, seminars, etc., it IS unanimous, but by the end of this year ALL Majors/Legacies will require a four year degree.

No if, ands, or buts about it.

Get it.

Nick · January 9th, 2008, 00:12

[token popcorn reply]

"I'm gonna go make popcorn -- this is gonna be good!"

[/token popcorn reply]

* * *

To those reading not convinced that the thread starter advice is legitimate, I recently flew with a captain with 4000 TPIC and 7000TT who is working on his degree online because he hasn't gotten any calls. Four thousand turbine PIC was not enough.

I'm certain many more can provide similar examples should the critics come on and say skip college.

WestIndian425 · January 9th, 2008, 00:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seggy

Talking to a recruiter at Colgan who is friends with a lot of the recruiters at the majors, they said at a few recruiter meetings at the AIRINC, seminars, etc., it IS unanimous, but by the end of this year ALL Majors/Legacies will require a four year degree.

No if, ands, or buts about it.

Get it.

Hmmm...getting more selective, huh?

Seggy · January 9th, 2008, 00:28

Actually, the way I look at it, it really has nothing to do with being selective.

It has to do with being well rounded.

SRA_kbad · January 9th, 2008, 00:33

I guess I should put that GI Bill to work now

Time to stop being lazy

WestIndian425 · January 9th, 2008, 00:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seggy

Actually, the way I look at it, it really has nothing to do with being selective.

It has to do with being well rounded.

Oh I agree with you, but if the airlines are going to make it mandatory, it doesn't paint the "desperate need for pilots" picture anymore.

v1valarob · January 9th, 2008, 00:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by SRA_kbad

I guess I should put that GI Bill to work now

Time to stop being lazy

Same here man.

What is a good place online to finish up a 4 year degree? I pretty much have my associates right now.

-Rob

SRA_kbad · January 9th, 2008, 00:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by v1valarob

Same here man.

What is a good place online to finish up a 4 year degree? I pretty much have my associates right now.

-Rob

Somewhere EASY too

Seggy · January 9th, 2008, 00:38

A lot of guys I know have used UVSC or ERAU to finish the four year degree online. You get a certain amount of credits as well depending on your certificates.

For the High School guys and gals, look into a nonaviation degree in a traditional brick and mortar type of school. The experiences you gain there will prepare you a lot more for this career than getting hired at a regional at 19.

Yes, college is not for everyone, but you are going to need it if you want your career path to take you to a legacy airline.

Pietrantonio · January 9th, 2008, 00:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by v1valarob

Same here man.

What is a good place online to finish up a 4 year degree? I pretty much have my associates right now.

-Rob

So far, UVSC is looking real good for me. Check it out, it might work for you as well.

www.uvsc.edu

v1valarob · January 9th, 2008, 00:40

This page kinda makes me laugh...

http://www.uvsc.edu/futurestudents/

"I Love The 70s!"

-Rob

Aero_Engineer · January 9th, 2008, 01:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seggy

Actually, the way I look at it, it really has nothing to do with being selective.

It has to do with being well rounded.

You are absolutely right, nowadays you better have a degree. We gotta hold this profession much more dear to ourselves. Not to attack any of the academies out there but with their advertising the general public thinks that anyone can just go in get out in 3 months and be a fine pilot, the standard has got to be raised.
Note: My post in no way was meant to attack anyone or any business. So please do not take it personally.

Doug Taylor · January 9th, 2008, 01:38

I know a lot of guys that have approached me about working for Southernjets.

But without the four year, love it or hate it, you have a 0% chance.

athomeinthesky · January 9th, 2008, 01:44

Bachelor degree is like the new high school diploma anyway, its a requirement for a lot of jobs that don't need it really.

Stone Cold · January 9th, 2008, 01:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

I know a lot of guys that have approached me about working for Southernjets.

But without the four year, love it or hate it, you have a 0% chance.

O'rly...so I have a chance...after all I went to the "Harvard of the skies", or whatever that cheesy line was.

Hahahahahahhahahaha.

Hmmm, how hard of a commute is JAX-ATL????

Doug Taylor · January 9th, 2008, 01:52

Proud to be an Eagle! Ha! You know I still have that keychain?

Stone Cold · January 9th, 2008, 01:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

Proud to be an Eagle! Ha! You know I still have that keychain?

Haha...you're such a geek!!!

I went to the job fair in DAB a few years ago with my girlfirend at the time (now my wife), and we went to the bookstore. I still have the "ERAU Alumni" bumpersticker she wanted me to buy...she loves telling everybody she won't let me take it off, since I paid $50K+ for that bumper sticker!!!

Doug Taylor · January 9th, 2008, 02:00

I still get all the junk mail.

Different generation of kids up at the PRC campus these days. Felt a little weird up there.

Stone Cold · January 9th, 2008, 02:05

That's because you're old...trust me, I know!!!

Lee D · January 9th, 2008, 02:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by athomeinthesky

Bachelor degree is like the new high school diploma anyway, its a requirement for a lot of jobs that don't need it really.

Nice observation. I agree, gotta have a degree these days.

mattp1803 · January 9th, 2008, 03:32

Sure am glad I didn't let airline pilot syndrome take me away from college too early.

troopernflight · January 9th, 2008, 08:44

Your degree might have nothing to do with aviation (as is mine), but it shows that you are disciplined and can handle a high workload. I can fully understand why they are wanting Bachelors. It's also good to have a degree in something non-aviation related in the event of a furlough. Some might not agree, but that's my take on it.

MFT1Air · January 9th, 2008, 08:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seggy

Actually, the way I look at it, it really has nothing to do with being selective.

It has to do with being well rounded.

. . .and if people don't get, they won't get it.

Whoa, I think I was also philosophical there as well.

MFT1Air · January 9th, 2008, 09:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stone Cold

Haha...you're such a geek!!!

I went to the job fair in DAB a few years ago with my girlfirend at the time (now my wife), and we went to the bookstore. I still have the "ERAU Alumni" bumpersticker she wanted me to buy...she loves telling everybody she won't let me take it off, since I paid $50K+ for that bumper sticker!!!

That's not bad; I wonder what the going rate for that sticker now? Maybe the Prescott sticker is cheaper, ya think? After all, they're snowed in from what I hear, so no flying. . . .extended ground school "might learn them something."

AP2B · January 9th, 2008, 09:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seggy

Talking to a recruiter at Colgan who is friends with a lot of the recruiters at the majors, they said at a few recruiter meetings at the AIRINC, seminars, etc., it IS unanimous, but by the end of this year ALL Majors/Legacies will require a four year degree.No if, ands, or buts about it.
Get it.

I was under the impression a four year degree WAS required at all the legacy/major airlines. As long as I can remember that's what has been indicated by the conventional wisdom on this site.

Anyone got any tips on Multivariate Calculus?

January 9th, 2008, 00:04	#1
Seggy Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Somewhere in the Northeast Posts: 4,942	Yes, another four year degree post... Talking to a recruiter at Colgan who is friends with a lot of the recruiters at the majors, they said at a few recruiter meetings at the AIRINC, seminars, etc., it IS unanimous, but by the end of this year ALL Majors/Legacies will require a four year degree. No if, ands, or buts about it. Get it. __________________ www.alpa.org

January 9th, 2008, 00:12	#2
Nick Old Skool Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,183	Re: Yes, another four year degree post... [token popcorn reply] "I'm gonna go make popcorn -- this is gonna be good!" [/token popcorn reply] * * * To those reading not convinced that the thread starter advice is legitimate, I recently flew with a captain with 4000 TPIC and 7000TT who is working on his degree online because he hasn't gotten any calls. Four thousand turbine PIC was not enough. I'm certain many more can provide similar examples should the critics come on and say skip college.

January 9th, 2008, 00:28	#4
Seggy Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Somewhere in the Northeast Posts: 4,942	Re: Yes, another four year degree post... Actually, the way I look at it, it really has nothing to do with being selective. It has to do with being well rounded. __________________ www.alpa.org

January 9th, 2008, 00:33	#5
SRA_kbad Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Commuting Posts: 734	Re: Yes, another four year degree post... I guess I should put that GI Bill to work now Time to stop being lazy __________________ "The Coconut Banger's Ball... Its A Rap"

January 9th, 2008, 00:38	#9
Seggy Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Somewhere in the Northeast Posts: 4,942	Re: Yes, another four year degree post... A lot of guys I know have used UVSC or ERAU to finish the four year degree online. You get a certain amount of credits as well depending on your certificates. For the High School guys and gals, look into a nonaviation degree in a traditional brick and mortar type of school. The experiences you gain there will prepare you a lot more for this career than getting hired at a regional at 19. Yes, college is not for everyone, but you are going to need it if you want your career path to take you to a legacy airline. __________________ www.alpa.org

January 9th, 2008, 00:40	#11
v1valarob Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Woodbridge, VA Posts: 1,009 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Yes, another four year degree post... This page kinda makes me laugh... http://www.uvsc.edu/futurestudents/ "I Love The 70s!" -Rob __________________ CFI - MEI http://robertstogsdill.flyblog.com "Yea, the guy with the $4000 suit is going to hold the elevator for the guy that doesnt even make that in 3 months. COME ON!" - Gob Bluth

January 9th, 2008, 01:38	#13
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 39,825 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Yes, another four year degree post... I know a lot of guys that have approached me about working for Southernjets. But without the four year, love it or hate it, you have a 0% chance. __________________ Doug Taylor http://76school.flyblog.com (old!) http://30west.flyblog.com (updated 11/28)

January 9th, 2008, 01:44	#14
athomeinthesky Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 327	Re: Yes, another four year degree post... Bachelor degree is like the new high school diploma anyway, its a requirement for a lot of jobs that don't need it really. __________________ "We have always found the Irish a bit odd. They refuse to be English." - Winston Churchill

January 9th, 2008, 01:52	#16
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 39,825 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Yes, another four year degree post... Proud to be an Eagle! Ha! You know I still have that keychain? __________________ Doug Taylor http://76school.flyblog.com (old!) http://30west.flyblog.com (updated 11/28)

January 9th, 2008, 02:00	#18
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 39,825 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Yes, another four year degree post... I still get all the junk mail. Different generation of kids up at the PRC campus these days. Felt a little weird up there. __________________ Doug Taylor http://76school.flyblog.com (old!) http://30west.flyblog.com (updated 11/28)

January 9th, 2008, 02:05	#19
Stone Cold Old Skool Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: SE US Posts: 2,942	Re: Yes, another four year degree post... That's because you're old...trust me, I know!!!

January 9th, 2008, 03:32	#21
mattp1803 Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Union, Kentucky/ Burleson, Texas Posts: 601	Re: Yes, another four year degree post... Sure am glad I didn't let airline pilot syndrome take me away from college too early.

January 9th, 2008, 08:44	#22
troopernflight Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 163	Re: Yes, another four year degree post... Your degree might have nothing to do with aviation (as is mine), but it shows that you are disciplined and can handle a high workload. I can fully understand why they are wanting Bachelors. It's also good to have a degree in something non-aviation related in the event of a furlough. Some might not agree, but that's my take on it.

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