Bombardier vs. Embraer - Page 2

OldTownPilot · January 7th, 2008, 14:33

ERJ-135 blow monkey turds.

With a fleet of 30 135s and over 200 145s you'd fugure that with commonality in mind they spend more for the 135 subfleet than they save in the slightly marginally less fuel burn.

Plus Justin gets home before spending WAAAAYYYY too long in EWR.

jynxyjoe · January 7th, 2008, 16:30

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Originally Posted by OldTownPilot

ERJ-135 blow monkey turds.

With a fleet of 30 135s and over 200 145s you'd fugure that with commonality in mind they spend more for the 135 subfleet than they save in the slightly marginally less fuel burn.

Plus Justin gets home before spending WAAAAYYYY too long in EWR.

hehehe. man, i gotta get u on a stand-up routine.

Check_Six · January 7th, 2008, 19:11

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Originally Posted by OldTownPilot

ERJ-135 blow monkey turds

See...I've gotta disagree on this one. From a purely pilot-oriented point of view (meaning I only care about my personal enjoyment, and not about whether the company makes any money), the E-135 is a blast to fly. I've flown a few pretty close to empty and it flies like a little cruise missile!

OldTownPilot · January 7th, 2008, 19:17

Alright lets argue over who's opinion is more rational.

I want to get home, I need more seats. 135 bad, 145 good, yes even a POS -ER. That is unless they sell the extra 13 seats. At which point Justin is just as angry as before.

I say the best is whatever gets me home. That was accomplished with 2 737s, a bus and a rent a car. No RJs got me home, so all RJs suck. As Seggy wrote, I hate RJs.

Chris_Ford · January 7th, 2008, 19:50

You could always contribute to the health of your own (or daddy's) company and, you know, BUY a ticket....

Seggy · January 7th, 2008, 19:56

Chris, so with that rationale you think that one should buy a ticket everytime they want to get to/from work?

OTP wasn't traveling along, there were a few other mainline guys who were trying to get home.

Chris_Ford · January 7th, 2008, 20:04

Pass riding is a fringe benefit. You should not complain when your company is doing well enough to fill their airplanes. In the end, that's good for you. If you don't want to run into that issue, buy a ticket, otherwise, stfd and ####

OldTownPilot · January 7th, 2008, 20:08

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Originally Posted by Chris_Ford

You could always contribute to the health of your own (or daddy's) company and, you know, BUY a ticket....

How did I get to vegas? Yep bought a ticket, but I certainly wasn't contributing to the health of the airline. If I dont NEED to be somewhere at a certain time, I non-rev. If I HAVE to someplace, I buy a ticket.

Can't take a bit of the humor you dish?

Seggy · January 7th, 2008, 20:11

Ahh filling a 37 seat aircraft with high fuel expenses might not be the best indication the airline is doing well.

Actually, can't fill it to 37 seats maybe 34 seats because of weight restrictions. So explain to me how consistently being overweight, leaving passengers behind is 'good' for an airline.

The GSO station had to give out something like $75,000 in vouchers, denied boarding vouchers, etc when CHQ started their CRJ service from there to IAH this past summer. They were usually weight restricted to 40 seats out of 50.

Oh by the way, yes I have bought tickets for family when they have had to be there.

Chris_Ford · January 7th, 2008, 20:11

You weren't being humorous, you were whining. There's a difference... though not a lot of people on this board know that.

OldTownPilot · January 7th, 2008, 20:15

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Originally Posted by Chris_Ford

You weren't being humorous, you were whining. There's a difference... though not a lot of people on this board know that.

nope, not whining. Maybe a bit tired, but definitely not whining. I've been doing this non-rev thing for quite a while and know how to roll with the punches. Extra day in Dublin? I'll go drink more beer. Waste a day and night in EWR? thats a bit more frustrating. But thats how I roll.

Doug Taylor · January 7th, 2008, 20:17

"Master Caution!"

"Which is it?"

"It's the attention annunciator, sir!"

jynxyjoe · January 7th, 2008, 21:18

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Originally Posted by OldTownPilot

nope, not whining. Maybe a bit tired, but definitely not whining. I've been doing this non-rev thing for quite a while and know how to roll with the punches. Extra day in Dublin? I'll go drink more beer. Waste a day and night in EWR? thats a bit more frustrating. But thats how I roll.

Thats how most of us feel when we are stuck in Jersey!

OldTownPilot · January 7th, 2008, 21:25

I was surprised I willingly went there this summer.

Then again I was partying with Segs and two gorgeous Swedish girls.

jynxyjoe · January 7th, 2008, 21:32

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Originally Posted by OldTownPilot

I was surprised I willingly went there this summer.

Then again I was partying with Segs and two gorgeous Swedish girls.

that guy is nuts with women. i think its because he's a woman, he tricks them.

Kingairer · January 7th, 2008, 22:07

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Originally Posted by Chris_Ford

Pass riding is a fringe benefit. You should not complain when your company is doing well enough to fill their airplanes. In the end, that's good for you. If you don't want to run into that issue, buy a ticket, otherwise, stfd and ####

So we dont get French benefits?

Kingairer · January 7th, 2008, 22:10

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Originally Posted by Seggy

Ahh filling a 37 seat aircraft with high fuel expenses might not be the best indication the airline is doing well.

Actually, can't fill it to 37 seats maybe 34 seats because of weight restrictions. So explain to me how consistently being overweight, leaving passengers behind is 'good' for an airline.

The GSO station had to give out something like $75,000 in vouchers, denied boarding vouchers, etc when CHQ started their CRJ service from there to IAH this past summer. They were usually weight restricted to 40 seats out of 50.

Oh by the way, yes I have bought tickets for family when they have had to be there.

thats why CAL is doing GSO to IAH now with the B1900...Fuel stops in ATL-JAN-MLU! Cash cow.

OldTownPilot · January 7th, 2008, 22:10

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Originally Posted by Kingairer

So we dont get French benefits?

I like French benifits. French Fries, French wine, French kissing.

GaTechKid · January 7th, 2008, 22:11

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Originally Posted by xkex5088

what is a better aircraft, a Bombardier CRJ or an Embraer ERJ (any model)?

Yes.

Maximillian_Jenius · January 7th, 2008, 22:15

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Originally Posted by OldTownPilot

I like French benifits. French Fries, French wine, French kissing.

I prefer freedom fries, freedom benefits, freedom wine, and freedom kissing!

JetsGoWhee · January 7th, 2008, 22:19

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Originally Posted by mtsu_av8er

I agree. We should just complain about the industry, talk about how much regionals suck, and how the industry needs to "take it back".

mtsu_av8er · January 8th, 2008, 01:30

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Originally Posted by Kingairer

thats why CAL is doing GSO to IAH now with the B1900...Fuel stops in ATL-JAN-MLU! Cash cow.

Hehehe

Airdale · January 8th, 2008, 16:15

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Originally Posted by mtsu_av8er

I agree. We should just complain about the industry, talk about how much regionals suck, and how the industry needs to "take it back".

Seriously.

mastermags · January 8th, 2008, 16:41

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Originally Posted by GaTechKid

Yes.

777forever · January 8th, 2008, 18:54

Fringe benefit?!?! Pass riding is da bomb, at least when traveling alone. I've flown more these past two months then I've ever in the last 5 years combined. Been able to hang out with many friends and family members within a time period that would be impossible financially without pass benefits. First class sometimes too. Moreover, when the flight is full there is that last option of the jumpseat.

January 7th, 2008, 14:33	#26
OldTownPilot Old Skool Join Date: May 2005 Location: BGR (Bangor, ME) Posts: 3,031 Blog Entries: 6	Re: Bombardier vs. Embraer ERJ-135 blow monkey turds. With a fleet of 30 135s and over 200 145s you'd fugure that with commonality in mind they spend more for the 135 subfleet than they save in the slightly marginally less fuel burn. Plus Justin gets home before spending WAAAAYYYY too long in EWR. __________________ As a wise man said, sumb!tch flew in, sumb!tch'll fly out. Ski Hard. Party Harder.

January 7th, 2008, 19:17	#29
OldTownPilot Old Skool Join Date: May 2005 Location: BGR (Bangor, ME) Posts: 3,031 Blog Entries: 6	Re: Bombardier vs. Embraer Alright lets argue over who's opinion is more rational. I want to get home, I need more seats. 135 bad, 145 good, yes even a POS -ER. That is unless they sell the extra 13 seats. At which point Justin is just as angry as before. I say the best is whatever gets me home. That was accomplished with 2 737s, a bus and a rent a car. No RJs got me home, so all RJs suck. As Seggy wrote, I hate RJs. __________________ As a wise man said, sumb!tch flew in, sumb!tch'll fly out. Ski Hard. Party Harder.

January 7th, 2008, 19:50	#30
Chris_Ford Banned Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,329	Re: Bombardier vs. Embraer You could always contribute to the health of your own (or daddy's) company and, you know, BUY a ticket....

January 7th, 2008, 19:56	#31
Seggy Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Somewhere in the Northeast Posts: 5,261	Re: Bombardier vs. Embraer Chris, so with that rationale you think that one should buy a ticket everytime they want to get to/from work? OTP wasn't traveling along, there were a few other mainline guys who were trying to get home. __________________ www.alpa.org

January 7th, 2008, 20:04	#32
Chris_Ford Banned Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,329	Re: Bombardier vs. Embraer Pass riding is a fringe benefit. You should not complain when your company is doing well enough to fill their airplanes. In the end, that's good for you. If you don't want to run into that issue, buy a ticket, otherwise, stfd and ####

January 7th, 2008, 20:11	#34
Seggy Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Somewhere in the Northeast Posts: 5,261	Re: Bombardier vs. Embraer Ahh filling a 37 seat aircraft with high fuel expenses might not be the best indication the airline is doing well. Actually, can't fill it to 37 seats maybe 34 seats because of weight restrictions. So explain to me how consistently being overweight, leaving passengers behind is 'good' for an airline. The GSO station had to give out something like $75,000 in vouchers, denied boarding vouchers, etc when CHQ started their CRJ service from there to IAH this past summer. They were usually weight restricted to 40 seats out of 50. Oh by the way, yes I have bought tickets for family when they have had to be there. __________________ www.alpa.org

January 7th, 2008, 20:11	#35
Chris_Ford Banned Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,329	Re: Bombardier vs. Embraer You weren't being humorous, you were whining. There's a difference... though not a lot of people on this board know that.

January 7th, 2008, 20:17	#37
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 41,164 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Bombardier vs. Embraer "Master Caution!" "Which is it?" "It's the attention annunciator, sir!" __________________ Doug Taylor http://76school.flyblog.com (old!) http://30west.flyblog.com (updated 11/28)

January 7th, 2008, 21:25	#39
OldTownPilot Old Skool Join Date: May 2005 Location: BGR (Bangor, ME) Posts: 3,031 Blog Entries: 6	Re: Bombardier vs. Embraer I was surprised I willingly went there this summer. Then again I was partying with Segs and two gorgeous Swedish girls. __________________ As a wise man said, sumb!tch flew in, sumb!tch'll fly out. Ski Hard. Party Harder.

January 8th, 2008, 18:54	#50
777forever Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: ATL Posts: 1,929	Re: Bombardier vs. Embraer Fringe benefit?!?! Pass riding is da bomb, at least when traveling alone. I've flown more these past two months then I've ever in the last 5 years combined. Been able to hang out with many friends and family members within a time period that would be impossible financially without pass benefits. First class sometimes too. Moreover, when the flight is full there is that last option of the jumpseat. __________________ Comm-ASEL, MEL, Inst. CFI, CFII, MEI TT: 700 Part 121 ATR72 FO B.S. Aviation Management-Business Minor Southeastern Oklahoma State University Cum Laude Graduate

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