Weather delays bogus?

trafficinsight · January 5th, 2008, 07:06

According to this random guy!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22493034/

He actually mentions the iPhone commercial.

Berkut · January 5th, 2008, 07:23

I've seen a few bogus weather delays and cancels in my time.

Let's say you have an airplane with a windshield heat MEL. Since one of the conditions of the MEL is "No flight into icing conditions," the flight will have to be canceled if icing is present. This should be an MX cancel, but will go down as a weather cancel. Kinda shady if you ask me.

BigGuyFlying · January 5th, 2008, 10:55

I thought it was a pretty good article. I'd guess that about 70% delays today are due to traffic and congestion, spawning from weather...

MikeOH58 · January 5th, 2008, 11:55

The IPHONE part of the article is obviously bogus, as we learned from the young man piloting the space shuttle for the first time hehe.

sorrygottarunway · January 5th, 2008, 12:25

I experienced this last week during my bread and butter run BGM-IAD. IAD was 1/4 SM in FG, VV001 etc, forecast to lift at around 9am (probably all due to the unseasonably warm weather bringing its southern moisture). In BGM, 5:30am, it was clear, cold, dry, basically a beautiful day. Due to the free internet in Binghamton, some of our passengers were pulling up "Meteorologist Friendly's Five Day Forecast" and seeing that it was going to be a beautiful day in IAD... some started calling me on it. Problem solved by explaining to them how if we left now, we'd hold for 2 hours for the fog to lift, and why not just leave right before it gets nice, so that it will BE nice when we land.

Unfortunately, I think some passengers think we look at the back of USA today, see a big smiling sun graphic, and determine its good to go!

Doug Taylor · January 5th, 2008, 12:34

Television news should report the weather and drop the new fangled idea of attempting to track flight delays.

NO airport has across the board 30 minute delays, but the talking heads on television like to report, "Today in Boston, 45 minute delays due to fog..."

Uh huh.

Chris_Ford · January 5th, 2008, 12:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

"Today in Boson, 45 minute days due to fog..."

Imagine how quickly weeks would go by!!!

Doug Taylor · January 5th, 2008, 13:46

Phixed. Interesting typos though!

Screaming_Emu · January 5th, 2008, 15:09

My response:

"I'm sorry, but you lost all credibility when you mentioned the iPhone commercial. That is 100% bogus. Pilots and dispatchers have access to weather sources much better than what some 15 year old can find on the iPhone his mommy bought him."

darrenf · January 5th, 2008, 15:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Screaming_Emu

My response:

"I'm sorry, but you lost all credibility when you mentioned the iPhone commercial. That is 100% bogus. Pilots and dispatchers have access to weather sources much better than what some 15 year old can find on the iPhone his mommy bought him."

To me, he didn't lose credibility by mentioning the commercial, but by his inability to discern an actor hawking a product, from a pilot.

January 5th, 2008, 07:06	#1
trafficinsight Junior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: RHV USA! Posts: 161	Weather delays bogus? According to this random guy! http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22493034/ He actually mentions the iPhone commercial.

January 5th, 2008, 07:23	#2
Berkut Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Murfreesboro, TN USA Posts: 886	Re: Weather delays bogus? I've seen a few bogus weather delays and cancels in my time. Let's say you have an airplane with a windshield heat MEL. Since one of the conditions of the MEL is "No flight into icing conditions," the flight will have to be canceled if icing is present. This should be an MX cancel, but will go down as a weather cancel. Kinda shady if you ask me. __________________ When seconds count, the police are only minutes away

January 5th, 2008, 10:55	#3
BigGuyFlying Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Palm Harbor, FL Posts: 105	Re: Weather delays bogus? I thought it was a pretty good article. I'd guess that about 70% delays today are due to traffic and congestion, spawning from weather... __________________ "Nobody built like you, you designed yourself."

January 5th, 2008, 11:55	#4
MikeOH58 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: CT Posts: 1,029	Re: Weather delays bogus? The IPHONE part of the article is obviously bogus, as we learned from the young man piloting the space shuttle for the first time hehe.

January 5th, 2008, 12:25	#5
sorrygottarunway Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DXR, Connecticut Posts: 1,141	Re: Weather delays bogus? I experienced this last week during my bread and butter run BGM-IAD. IAD was 1/4 SM in FG, VV001 etc, forecast to lift at around 9am (probably all due to the unseasonably warm weather bringing its southern moisture). In BGM, 5:30am, it was clear, cold, dry, basically a beautiful day. Due to the free internet in Binghamton, some of our passengers were pulling up "Meteorologist Friendly's Five Day Forecast" and seeing that it was going to be a beautiful day in IAD... some started calling me on it. Problem solved by explaining to them how if we left now, we'd hold for 2 hours for the fog to lift, and why not just leave right before it gets nice, so that it will BE nice when we land. Unfortunately, I think some passengers think we look at the back of USA today, see a big smiling sun graphic, and determine its good to go! __________________ CFI/CFII/MEI ATP, SF340

January 5th, 2008, 12:34	#6
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 39,271 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Weather delays bogus? Television news should report the weather and drop the new fangled idea of attempting to track flight delays. NO airport has across the board 30 minute delays, but the talking heads on television like to report, "Today in Boston, 45 minute delays due to fog..." Uh huh. __________________ Doug Taylor http://76school.flyblog.com (old!) http://30west.flyblog.com (updated 11/28) Last edited by Doug Taylor; January 5th, 2008 at 13:45.

January 5th, 2008, 13:46	#8
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 39,271 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Weather delays bogus? Phixed. Interesting typos though! __________________ Doug Taylor http://76school.flyblog.com (old!) http://30west.flyblog.com (updated 11/28)

January 5th, 2008, 15:09	#9
Screaming_Emu Old Skool Join Date: May 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 3,027	Re: Weather delays bogus? My response: "I'm sorry, but you lost all credibility when you mentioned the iPhone commercial. That is 100% bogus. Pilots and dispatchers have access to weather sources much better than what some 15 year old can find on the iPhone his mommy bought him." __________________ Commercial Pilot - ASEL, AMEL, Instrument CFI/II 800TT CRJ-700 FO at Southernjets Connection Former flight instructor out of KBWI and W29 Loves Dutch chicks "jtrain609: I wish I had a pair"

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