Stick vs. Yoke

troopernflight · January 4th, 2008, 21:18

Has anyone found it difficult to start out training on the stick (i.e. Diamond aircraft), and converting to yoke later in their training? The way I see trends going in these newer commercial aircraft we may eventually all convert back to stick..... any comments?

ctab5060X · January 4th, 2008, 21:23

I started off in a Citabria and didn't have any major problems when transitioning to aircraft with a yoke. Only thing that bugged me initially was getting used to primarily flying with my left hand rathern than my right. After a while, it all becomes second nature.

Ecl!pse · January 4th, 2008, 21:36

I am still working on my PPL, but started back home in Pittsburgh in a Diamond DA20 Eclipse. When I moved to Ann Arbor for school, I had to switch into a Piper PA28, with the yoke. I've found the transition to be incredibly easy. Once you get into it for a while, flying is flying and an airplane is an airplane (at the smaller levels - not too sure about that once you get into heavy metal!). You'll be fine with any transition and find it much easier than you anticipated.

Berkut · January 4th, 2008, 22:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by troopernflight

Has anyone found it difficult to start out training on the stick (i.e. Diamond aircraft), and converting to yoke later in their training?

It's not an issue at all. I switched between a SuperCub, Diamond, and Cessna all through my training. No problems at all.

MikeOH58 · January 4th, 2008, 22:11

Only "stick" time I have is in a Pitts S2b, and it took a while to get used too...Than again, the airplane is a pure aerobat, and i'm sure it would be different than a diamond or citabria.

ctab5060X · January 4th, 2008, 22:19

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Originally Posted by MikeOH58

Only "stick" time I have is in a Pitts S2b, and it took a while to get used too...Than again, the airplane is a pure aerobat, and i'm sure it would be different than a diamond or citabria.

I personally think it is easier to go from flying a stick to flying a yoke, but then again, that is just me...

Thoughts from others on this?

Low_Level_Hell · January 4th, 2008, 22:37

Aircraft with a control stick are better, and aircraft with two control sticks are the best.

tprops4me · January 4th, 2008, 23:15

They all fly the same. It really is no big deal at all to switch. I find the stick more intuitive, but that is personal preference. I like the yoke better when flying IFR, because I like to put the charts on a yoke clip. I don't like looking down to my leg for the chart.

flyer8 · January 5th, 2008, 00:16

Just remember that you are still flying an airplane.

Hacker15e · January 5th, 2008, 00:24

I'll add to the chorus of "it's not a big deal" either way.

The only change is a loss of "muscle memory" with respect to throttle and control positions, but you will get that when changing between aircraft any time (the throttle difference between a Skyhawk and a Cherokee, for example).

I think the same goes for when it's time to get that CFI (or be a right-seater in a heavy) and fly from the right side. A little different for a flight or so, then no big deal.

My preference is the left hand throttle, right hand stick config, but that's probably because that's how I have most of my flight time. I'm sure if I had most of my time in a yoke-left, throttle-right position then that is what I would prefer.

flyguy969 · January 5th, 2008, 01:08

I honestly thought that I would have an issue transitioning from a yoke to a stick but that was not the case at all. It may take a little getting used to and by that I mean a few minutes!

moelost · January 5th, 2008, 01:22

Did my Private training in a Cessna 172. Then moved onto a Diamond DA40 for my instrument training. I thought I'd have a bit of "getting used to" as far as yoke-to-stick transition, but that wasn't the case at all. No problem whatsoever. Felt completely natural right after the first rotation.

bdhill1979 · January 5th, 2008, 01:25

I switch back an forth from Diamonds to real airplanes several times a day. I VASTLY prefer the yoke, but more from a "Knees and Nuts" perspective.

Berkut · January 5th, 2008, 03:06

Heh. Do you have problems with the stick hitting you in the ol' flight bag, so to speak?

t-cart · January 5th, 2008, 10:01

I prefer the left hand throttle,right hand stick.Have flown a Luscombe quite a bit but really didnt like that arrangement.Never have flown a Diamond. T.C.

bdhill1979 · January 5th, 2008, 11:03

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Originally Posted by Berkut

Heh. Do you have problems with the stick hitting you in the ol' flight bag, so to speak?

I once jammed my knee board into my business. It wasn't hard or anything, but there was bleeding.

MikeOH58 · January 5th, 2008, 11:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdhill1979

I once jammed my knee board into my business. It wasn't hard or anything, but there was bleeding.

"WE'VE GOT A BLEEDER!"

ctab5060X · January 5th, 2008, 12:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by t-cart

I prefer the left hand throttle,right hand stick.Have flown a Luscombe quite a bit but really didnt like that arrangement.Never have flown a Diamond. T.C.

Yeah, but how many thousands of hours do you have with this configuration?

troopernflight · January 5th, 2008, 13:02

I knew it was only a matter of time before one of those jokes came out. It's funny to watch the metamorphosis of these forums!

bdhill1979 · January 5th, 2008, 16:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by troopernflight

I knew it was only a matter of time before one of those jokes came out. It's funny to watch the metamorphosis of these forums!

Stick induced genital injuries are no joking matter. I was "out of commission" for almost two weeks

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Berkut · January 5th, 2008, 17:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctab5060X

Yeah, but how many thousands of hours do you have with this configuration?

If you switch hands, it feels like someone else is flying, ifyaknowwhatImean.

ctab5060X · January 5th, 2008, 17:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctab5060X

Yeah, but how many thousands of hours do you have with this configuration?

Actually, I was referring to the fact that T.C. has a crap load of hours flying ag in aircraft you fly with with you right hand on the controls and left hand on the throttle. Making the point that it is all about what you are used to flying.

Quote:

Originally Posted by troopernflight

I knew it was only a matter of time before one of those jokes came out. It's funny to watch the metamorphosis of these forums!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berkut

If you switch hands, it feels like someone else is flying, ifyaknowwhatImean.

Maybe we should try getting our minds out of the gutter sometimes...
(just kidding)

Even though it was a serious response, it did turn out kind of funny...

JC is great...made my weekend better already!

t-cart · January 5th, 2008, 19:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctab5060X

Actually, I was referring to the fact that T.C. has a crap load of hours flying ag in aircraft you fly with with you right hand on the controls and left hand on the throttle. Making the point that it is all about what you are used to flying.

Maybe we should try getting our minds out of the gutter sometimes...
(just kidding)

Even though it was a serious response, it did turn out kind of funny...

JC is great...made my weekend better already!

Yeah,I am pretty comfortable with the right hand,but can use the left if need be. Havent really had to use either one very much for several years though.

T.C. I am talking about flying!!!

January 4th, 2008, 21:18	#1
troopernflight Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 164	Stick vs. Yoke Has anyone found it difficult to start out training on the stick (i.e. Diamond aircraft), and converting to yoke later in their training? The way I see trends going in these newer commercial aircraft we may eventually all convert back to stick..... any comments?

January 4th, 2008, 21:23	#2
ctab5060X Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Southaven, MS Posts: 515	Re: Stick vs. Yoke I started off in a Citabria and didn't have any major problems when transitioning to aircraft with a yoke. Only thing that bugged me initially was getting used to primarily flying with my left hand rathern than my right. After a while, it all becomes second nature.

January 4th, 2008, 21:36	#3
Ecl!pse Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Pittsburgh, PA/Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 382	Re: Stick vs. Yoke I am still working on my PPL, but started back home in Pittsburgh in a Diamond DA20 Eclipse. When I moved to Ann Arbor for school, I had to switch into a Piper PA28, with the yoke. I've found the transition to be incredibly easy. Once you get into it for a while, flying is flying and an airplane is an airplane (at the smaller levels - not too sure about that once you get into heavy metal!). You'll be fine with any transition and find it much easier than you anticipated.

January 4th, 2008, 22:11	#5
MikeOH58 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: CT Posts: 1,048	Re: Stick vs. Yoke Only "stick" time I have is in a Pitts S2b, and it took a while to get used too...Than again, the airplane is a pure aerobat, and i'm sure it would be different than a diamond or citabria.

January 4th, 2008, 22:37	#7
Low_Level_Hell Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 145	Re: Stick vs. Yoke Aircraft with a control stick are better, and aircraft with two control sticks are the best.

January 4th, 2008, 23:15	#8
tprops4me Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: West Michigan Posts: 346	Re: Stick vs. Yoke They all fly the same. It really is no big deal at all to switch. I find the stick more intuitive, but that is personal preference. I like the yoke better when flying IFR, because I like to put the charts on a yoke clip. I don't like looking down to my leg for the chart.

January 5th, 2008, 00:16	#9
flyer8 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 104	Re: Stick vs. Yoke Just remember that you are still flying an airplane.

January 5th, 2008, 00:24	#10
Hacker15e Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lakenpain Posts: 841	Re: Stick vs. Yoke I'll add to the chorus of "it's not a big deal" either way. The only change is a loss of "muscle memory" with respect to throttle and control positions, but you will get that when changing between aircraft any time (the throttle difference between a Skyhawk and a Cherokee, for example). I think the same goes for when it's time to get that CFI (or be a right-seater in a heavy) and fly from the right side. A little different for a flight or so, then no big deal. My preference is the left hand throttle, right hand stick config, but that's probably because that's how I have most of my flight time. I'm sure if I had most of my time in a yoke-left, throttle-right position then that is what I would prefer. __________________ Trains were meant to be strafed. 0100011000101101001100010011010101000101

January 5th, 2008, 01:08	#11
flyguy969 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: St Pete, FL(KPIE, KSPG) Posts: 268	Re: Stick vs. Yoke I honestly thought that I would have an issue transitioning from a yoke to a stick but that was not the case at all. It may take a little getting used to and by that I mean a few minutes! __________________ KA-BLAHHHH....FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!!!

January 5th, 2008, 01:22	#12
moelost Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 20	Re: Stick vs. Yoke Did my Private training in a Cessna 172. Then moved onto a Diamond DA40 for my instrument training. I thought I'd have a bit of "getting used to" as far as yoke-to-stick transition, but that wasn't the case at all. No problem whatsoever. Felt completely natural right after the first rotation.

January 5th, 2008, 01:25	#13
bdhill1979 Old Skool Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: U77 Posts: 2,332	Re: Stick vs. Yoke I switch back an forth from Diamonds to real airplanes several times a day. I VASTLY prefer the yoke, but more from a "Knees and Nuts" perspective. __________________ Commercial Pilot, IR Gold Seal CFI, CFII TT: 950ish Part 91 Company pilot 4 year Degree Will fish for pay

January 5th, 2008, 03:06	#14
Berkut Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Murfreesboro, TN USA Posts: 925	Re: Stick vs. Yoke Heh. Do you have problems with the stick hitting you in the ol' flight bag, so to speak? __________________ When seconds count, the police are only minutes away

January 5th, 2008, 10:01	#15
t-cart Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In the sticks Posts: 599	Re: Stick vs. Yoke I prefer the left hand throttle,right hand stick.Have flown a Luscombe quite a bit but really didnt like that arrangement.Never have flown a Diamond. T.C.

January 5th, 2008, 13:02	#19
troopernflight Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 164	Re: Stick vs. Yoke I knew it was only a matter of time before one of those jokes came out. It's funny to watch the metamorphosis of these forums!

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