Video critical phases of flight

juxtapilot · January 4th, 2008, 21:06

I have always been curious about this. Do you airline pilots and flight attendents care when a passenger videos a crititcal phase (takeoff or landing)?

What are your thoughts on this?

casey · January 4th, 2008, 22:16

"Ladies and gentleman the main cabin door has been closed, please power off any and all portable electronic devices"

and

"Ladies and gentleman we have passed through 10000', all portable electronic devices must be powered off and stowed for landing"

video recorders, as you may well know are portable electronic devices. listen to your flight attendant.

cencal83406 · January 4th, 2008, 22:37

And as we know people actually do listen to these messages.

flyer8 · January 4th, 2008, 22:55

FA: "Ma'am please secure your table and stow the laptop"

Passenger: "No thanks, I'll be fine."

cencal83406 · January 4th, 2008, 23:04

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Originally Posted by flynik

FA: "Ma'am please secure your table and stow the laptop"

Passenger: "No thanks, I'll be fine."

Exactly right.

MFT1Air · January 4th, 2008, 23:20

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Originally Posted by cencal83406

And as we know people actually do listen to these messages.

I do.

MFT1Air · January 4th, 2008, 23:21

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Originally Posted by flynik

FA: "Ma'am please secure your table and stow the laptop"

Passenger: "No thanks, I'll be fine."

That's good to hear; now, allow me to do it for you.

juxtapilot · January 5th, 2008, 01:23

Interesting. We all know that there are a ton of people who do so regardless. (Youtube is my proof.) On my last flight there was a passenger recording the landing, and the flight attendent walked though the cabin during the final check or whatever and didn't say anything. I am sure he noticed, but he didn't seem to care.

Thanks for the replies.

Doug Taylor · January 5th, 2008, 01:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by juxtapilot

I have always been curious about this. Do you airline pilots and flight attendents care when a passenger videos a crititcal phase (takeoff or landing)?

What are your thoughts on this?

Personal electronic devices are supposed to be off until advised that they are authorized for use.

Whether it makes sense or not, whether or not it's safe or not, them's the rules, Broseph!

Doug Taylor · January 5th, 2008, 01:59

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Originally Posted by MFT1Air

I do.

Good!

One less guy I gotta sweep the cabin for during a flaming emergency evacuation when the passenger count doesn't jibe and CFR hasn't arrived yet!

mtsu_av8er · January 5th, 2008, 02:51

Strange. Just the other week, I was flying an ILS to mins with the autopilot inop, and recorded the whole thing!

[/joke]

surreal1221 · January 5th, 2008, 09:27

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Originally Posted by mtsu_av8er

Strange. Just the other week, I was flying an ILS to mins with the autopilot inop, and recorded the whole thing!

[/joke]

Skills!

MFT1Air · January 5th, 2008, 10:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by juxtapilot

Interesting. We all know that there are a ton of people who do so regardless. (Youtube is my proof.) On my last flight there was a passenger recording the landing, and the flight attendent walked though the cabin during the final check or whatever and didn't say anything. I am sure he noticed, but he didn't seem to care.

Thanks for the replies.

Yes, you're exactly right. Passengers also know flight attendants are sitting down as well; hence, the reason for the YouTube videos. Additionally, PAX are always in collusion. One is videoing; the other is looking out for the FA. Typical.

Let them get caught and the FA wish to press the issue.

MFT1Air · January 5th, 2008, 10:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

Good!

One less guy I gotta sweep the cabin for during a flaming emergency evacuation when the passenger count doesn't jibe and CFR hasn't arrived yet!

Believe me; I'll be the one grabbing PAXs to get the heck out as well especially if you in front of me.

What's the cliche' that's appropriate to you, "when you leave the flight deck, all you expect to see are buttholes and elbows!! Everyone should be heading out the door and moving smartly!

Qgar · January 5th, 2008, 11:08

Umm, I know I'm very new at this, but this is why FA's are required to do 10 minute compliance checks. Yeah, I know, they can still do it, but it makes it more of a pain when they realize I'm gonna be checkin' up on them every 10 minutes! That being said, I've been on flights where the FA only walks through when she's serving or cleaning up.

mtsu_av8er · January 5th, 2008, 12:14

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Originally Posted by surreal1221

Skills!

Whoa - an Air Force guy!

BigGuyFlying · January 5th, 2008, 12:22

What about when you see the youtube videos from the cockpit, sometimes taken by one of the members of the flight crew...

mastermags · January 5th, 2008, 12:26

Pilots don't have to follow the rules.

cencal83406 · January 5th, 2008, 12:49

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Originally Posted by mastermags

Pilots don't have to follow the rules.

My cell accidentally went off in the sim once, and my instructor gave me this anecdote in response:

There was a captain at our airline who was getting a line-check with an FAA ride-along. Not only did his cellphone went off after they'd already pushed and were going, he also answered the call. Needless to say, he's now warming the right seat for quite a while. I was told that if it was me, as the FO that had that happen, I'd probably be looking for new employment.

January 4th, 2008, 21:06	#1
juxtapilot Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Portland Posts: 601	Video critical phases of flight I have always been curious about this. Do you airline pilots and flight attendents care when a passenger videos a crititcal phase (takeoff or landing)? What are your thoughts on this? __________________ Music Rocks!

January 4th, 2008, 22:16	#2
casey Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: abe Posts: 856	Re: Video critical phases of flight "Ladies and gentleman the main cabin door has been closed, please power off any and all portable electronic devices" and "Ladies and gentleman we have passed through 10000', all portable electronic devices must be powered off and stowed for landing" video recorders, as you may well know are portable electronic devices. listen to your flight attendant.

January 4th, 2008, 22:37	#3
cencal83406 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Horn Lake, MS Posts: 129	Re: Video critical phases of flight And as we know people actually do listen to these messages.

January 4th, 2008, 22:55	#4
flyer8 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 104	Re: Video critical phases of flight FA: "Ma'am please secure your table and stow the laptop" Passenger: "No thanks, I'll be fine."

January 5th, 2008, 01:23	#8
juxtapilot Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Portland Posts: 601	Re: Video critical phases of flight Interesting. We all know that there are a ton of people who do so regardless. (Youtube is my proof.) On my last flight there was a passenger recording the landing, and the flight attendent walked though the cabin during the final check or whatever and didn't say anything. I am sure he noticed, but he didn't seem to care. Thanks for the replies. __________________ Music Rocks!

January 5th, 2008, 02:51	#11
mtsu_av8er Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Utopia Posts: 12,426	Re: Video critical phases of flight Strange. Just the other week, I was flying an ILS to mins with the autopilot inop, and recorded the whole thing! [/joke] __________________ ------- "Sadness bears no remedy for the problems in your life."

January 5th, 2008, 11:08	#15
Qgar Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NYC/EWR Posts: 3,221	Re: Video critical phases of flight Umm, I know I'm very new at this, but this is why FA's are required to do 10 minute compliance checks. Yeah, I know, they can still do it, but it makes it more of a pain when they realize I'm gonna be checkin' up on them every 10 minutes! That being said, I've been on flights where the FA only walks through when she's serving or cleaning up. __________________ Colgan Q-400 Flight Attendant Just Remember -- NOT ALL THOSE WHO WANDER ARE LOST... I may have wings, but that doesn't make me an angel.....

January 5th, 2008, 12:22	#17
BigGuyFlying Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Palm Harbor, FL Posts: 109	Re: Video critical phases of flight What about when you see the youtube videos from the cockpit, sometimes taken by one of the members of the flight crew... __________________ "Nobody built like you, you designed yourself."

January 5th, 2008, 12:26	#18
mastermags Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Atlanta, Ga Posts: 1,303	Re: Video critical phases of flight Pilots don't have to follow the rules. __________________ http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mastermags2/ If you are racist, I will invade you with the North. CFI, CFII, MEI, CRJ-700 FO, humanitarian

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