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Old January 4th, 2008, 10:33   #26
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Default Re: Cessna HEAVY?

It would be just as comical as calling yourself "Lifeguard Cessna NXXXXX" because you have to pee.
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I do know a story of someone (not I) who was on a solo cross country from TUS to PRC that landed at Luke Air Force base because of impending urination.

Oddly enough, now the pilot is a FO at NWA.

See, notice I left out the pilot's gender so it didn't have devolve into one of those misogynistic threads!
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So was she hot?
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Old January 4th, 2008, 11:42   #29
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if you dont have it already, when you get a TIS in a GA airplane never see "ive got them on the fishfinder" in response to a traffic advisory
Also, don't say you TCAS when you have TIS. It is a pet peeve of mine when someone calls the TIS in the G1000 TCAS.
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Old January 4th, 2008, 12:07   #30
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So was she hot?
Actually, there's a guy here (not I) that knows a guy who was married to her for a period of time.
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Old January 4th, 2008, 16:49   #31
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Cessna Heavy? Not so odd.

We had a gal in HR who thought C-172 time must be better than C-130 time because the number was bigger, therefore the airplane must be heavier.

True story.
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Imagine a pilot trying to pickup a girl.

Girl: "So what do you fly?"
Pilot: "Well you see that big four engined plane there?"
Girl: "You fly THAT!? That's so cool!"
Pilot: "No way baby, that's a C-130. Now me? I fly a C-152!"
Girl: "OH WOW!"
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Cessna Heavy? Not so odd.

We had a gal in HR who thought C-172 time must be better than C-130 time because the number was bigger, therefore the airplane must be heavier.

True story.
I'm lucky if I can remember to add "Heavy" to the callsign when I fly the 767.
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I rarely remember.

Plus, I keep using the "Delta Four Four" when I'm in domestic airspace and they want to hear "forty-four".
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Old January 5th, 2008, 01:33   #35
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Why would they want to hear "forty-four"? Isn't "four four" the correct phraseology?
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No idea. Conventionally, it's "Four Four" internationally and "forty-four" for brevity in the US.
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So I guess you could just use those interchangeably. Or would it be wrong to say "forty-four" outside of the U.S.?
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That would be incorrect.
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Which part? Interchangeable use or it being wrong to say "forty-four" outside of the U.S.
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At least at my airline, they want us to use "four four" when outside of the US but "forty four" hunky dory domestically. It's pretty standard. I haven't heard anyone talk to Shanwick OCA saying "'Merican Twelve" or "Ewesssairrrrrssssssss Eighteen" before.
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And why is USAir always plural? Ewessairs?
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Old January 5th, 2008, 02:11   #42
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Wow. Do US Airways' pilots actually say "USAir's" all the time? I've read about something like this on another post where someone mentioned something about how US Airways' pilots talk like that. I think there was one instance where I heard "Delta's" when I was listening to JFK Tower.

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Hello. I was just wondering, what would happen if you're flying a General Aviation aircraft, a Cessna perhaps, and you included a "heavy" in your callsign? What would ATC and other pilots hearing that think?
I would think you were a *edit*. And then make some comment to whoever I am flying with about you being an aviation super dork.
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And why is USAir always plural? Ewessairs?
Comair is doing it too----Comair's 3740.
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Doug,what does the forty four,or four four mean? T.C.
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He'd be talking about his flight number.
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Why would they want to hear "forty-four"? Isn't "four four" the correct phraseology?
They can both be correct, depending on the circumstances. Here's what the 7110.65 says (emphasis added):

2-4-20...

2. Air carrier and other civil aircraft having FAA
authorized call signs. State the call sign followed by
the flight number in group form.
NOTE−
“Group form” is the pronunciation of a series of numbers
as the whole number, or pairs of numbers they represent
rather than pronouncing each separate digit. The use of
group form may, however, be negated by four-digit
identifiers or the placement of zeros in the identifier.

EXAMPLE−
“American Fifty−Two.”
“Delta One Hundred.”
“Eastern Metro One Ten.”
“General Motors Thirty Fifteen.”
“United One Zero One.”
“Delta Zero One Zero.”
“TWA Ten Zero Four.”

NOTE−
Air carrier and other civil aircraft having FAA authorized
call signs may be pronounced using single digits if
necessary for clarity.

EXAMPLE−
“United Five One Seven.”
“United Five Seven Zero.”
“Air Guard One Three Five Eight Six.”
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He'd be talking about his flight number.
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And why is USAir always plural? Ewessairs?
I have heard this one over the entire course of my career, and it wasn't limited to any individual airline.

I always thought it was a shortened form of the possessive (rather than plural) as in "Delta's flight number forty-four" being reduced to "Delta's forty-four".
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You know what's hard to say sometimes (and by that I mean including all letters in the enunciation of the callsign):

Flagship.

Don't try to say that too fast or you just might make it sound a hair different.
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