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Old January 3rd, 2008, 01:01   #1
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Default Tower Enroute IFR rocks the party....

...that rocks the party. Getting around in the L.A. basin today couldn't have been easier!
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Old January 3rd, 2008, 01:05   #2
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Default Re: Tower Enroute IFR rocks the party....

They were called "Echo" routings when I was at LA TRACON. It's probably "Mike" routings by now.
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Old January 3rd, 2008, 01:15   #3
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Doing my IFR training in Santa Barbara, I used the IFR Tower Enroute routings a lot (yes they're Mike routings now). I think I became spoiled because I expected to always just hop into the plane, call up clearance, and grab a pop up IFR clearance whenever I wanted.

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Old January 3rd, 2008, 01:16   #4
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By the way, LA Center has a nifty website where you can just look up the routings online!

http://www.laartcc.org/tec/index.php
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Default Re: Tower Enroute IFR rocks the party....

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By the way, LA Center has a nifty website where you can just look up the routings online!

http://www.laartcc.org/tec/index.php
or just look in the enroute section of any Jepp subscription that includes southern california, or the SW AFD
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By the way, LA Center has a nifty website where you can just look up the routings online!

http://www.laartcc.org/tec/index.php
That site appears to be for flightsim flying online
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Default Re: Tower Enroute IFR rocks the party....

Or just call up clearance delivery/ground and ask for "tower enroute to xxx" like I did, and they'll come back with a routing that works for them (and may not necessarily resemble the published routes).
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TEC or VFR flight following works wonders in the LA basin.
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That site appears to be for flightsim flying online
Yup. . .but they sure do work hard making it as information overload as possible.
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They were called "Echo" routings when I was at LA TRACON. It's probably "Mike" routings by now.
They are mike now..."cleared to Los Angeles international via the san mike XX routing"

I love the canned routes as well until I hit the east coast and they do not exist.

When I flew out of KCRQ (busy class D) i used to just call up ground and tell them where I wanted to go and they would file for me and hand me my nice tec route and off I went.

When I got to KBED (very busy class D) i learned day 1 that you do not file anything with ground, it was file your own clearance (just make something up because in the busy east coast corridor they WILL change it) and then pick it up from clearance and off you went. They just arent used up here at all at least for GA.

I have flown the same routes alot and everytime would get the clearance changed on me so then I used to just file exactly what they gave me the last flight and then they would change that too so I learned and just filed direct everytime since it never seemed to matter what I planned, I would just copy the crapshoot they gave me.
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