Don't adjust the other pilot's seat (1994 NTSB report)

[Nick]

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?e...06X01590&key=1

One of the more bizarre NTSB reports from the airline sector that I've seen so far.

[WestIndian425]

WOW!!!

[seaav8tor]

Difference between old experienced pilot and new inexperienced pilot.

New pilot plays with stuff, moves switches that don't need to be moved, tests stuff that doesn't need to be tested, explores the envelope, tries new things (since it's all new), is creative, inventive.

Old pilot knows the above behavior gets you burned so he quit doing it long ago.

[taseal]

Originally Posted by seaav8tor

Difference between old experienced pilot and new inexperienced pilot.

New pilot plays with stuff, moves switches that don't need to be moved, tests stuff that doesn't need to be tested, explores the envelope, tries new things (since it's all new), is creative, inventive.

Old pilot knows the above behavior gets you burned so he quit doing it long ago.

nah...

I think this is just being an overall idiot

"ppst, watch this ####" *moves seat*

[Pietrantonio]

You want to talk about an idiot...here's a prime example.

Have at it fellas

http://www.aopa.org/asf/epilot_acc/chi04fa257.html

[MarkE]

Originally Posted by Pietrantonio

You want to talk about an idiot...here's a prime example.

Have at it fellas

http://www.aopa.org/asf/epilot_acc/chi04fa257.html

I wouldn't say this guy was an idiot but definitely a good example of an anti authority attitude with a little invulnerability.

[Pietrantonio]

Originally Posted by MarkE

I wouldn't say this guy was an idiot but definitely a good example of an anti authority attitude with a little invulnerability.

Ok, I can see where you're coming from. Maybe not idiotic in the sense that he/she is not the only pilot who probably doesn't use a checklist, and still logs the same number of take-offs and landings, but I would have to say that his attitude in regards to checklists, was fairly idiotic. I mean when an instructor pulls your power, the first thing you need to do instinctivly, is to set up for an engine failure. No question about it. I would say that it wasn't so much the crash, but like you said, his anti authority and invulnerability attitude, in my opinon made this guy look like an idiot. In my opinon.

The OP first article, really gets me. Why would you start adjusting someone elses seat when they're presently sitting in it, at all? Beats me. Great article though. It really shows you that what you don't think can happen (no matter what the situatio), that there might just be a day that it will happen.

[flyover]

Originally Posted by Pietrantonio

Why would you start adjusting someone elses seat when they're presently sitting in it, at all? Beats me.

Best guess? That guy was sleeping just like the captain in the back in the "rest seat".

[flyguy969]

All I have to say is...........WOWThis is just bizarre. Just a reminder of how many little things that can go wrong while in fight

[XcalibeR]

Originally Posted by seaav8tor

Difference between old experienced pilot and new inexperienced pilot.

New pilot plays with stuff, moves switches that don't need to be moved, tests stuff that doesn't need to be tested, explores the envelope, tries new things (since it's all new), is creative, inventive.

Old pilot knows the above behavior gets you burned so he quit doing it long ago.

The only reason old pilot knows the above behavior gets you burned was because, before, when he was a new inexperienced pilot, he played with stuff, moved switches that don't need to be moved, tested stuff that didn't need to be tested, explored the envelope, tried new things, and was creative and inventive

[MarkE]

Originally Posted by Pietrantonio

Ok, I can see where you're coming from. Maybe not idiotic in the sense that he/she is not the only pilot who probably doesn't use a checklist, and still logs the same number of take-offs and landings, but I would have to say that his attitude in regards to checklists, was fairly idiotic. I mean when an instructor pulls your power, the first thing you need to do instinctivly, is to set up for an engine failure. No question about it. I would say that it wasn't so much the crash, but like you said, his anti authority and invulnerability attitude, in my opinon made this guy look like an idiot. In my opinon.

It's scary to me that there's a few pilots out there like that. I have a cousin in Alabama. His boss owns and flies a plane for business use. Long story short, he was relating a story to me the other day on how his boss was flying into Atlanta. My cuz is a non pilot so facts may not be accurate but from what I could gather his boss deviated from an ATC instruction so that he could land sooner. He ended up getting a fine for it and his attitude is basically "so what, I'm rich and can afford to pay fines."
I told my cuz to NEVER under any circumstances to get in a plane with this guy. Only two outcomes for this loser. He'll lose is certs or end up as a smoking hole in the ground.