What's it like to fly the CRJ? - Page 2

LoadMasterC141 · December 27th, 2007, 21:49

I have made a dozen perfect landings in varying conditions in the 900....Uh...in MS FSX. Am I good to go? I even figured out the autopilot! (Ducks)

JAM · December 27th, 2007, 21:54

The only jets I have significant time in are the -200 and the CE750. I like the hand flying feel of the -200 better than the X. It is definitely easier to land. Consistent greasers, even for a Comair Academy "kid" out of the seminole

(must have been the Bombardier engineers dumbing down the cockpit for me

). However, when I ask the X to do something for me (like climb at 2000fpm to FL410 or get over that cell at FL490), it can do it. When I asked the -200, it gave me 500 fpm above FL200 and topped out at FL310 (if I was lucky).

Andrew_VT · December 27th, 2007, 21:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by captainphil

What's it like to fly the CRJ?

It's like warm apple pie...

I would assume.

...because I don't fly the CRJ not because...

ahh never mind

JetsGoWhee · December 27th, 2007, 23:36

Flying the CRJ is no different than riding a bicycle...just a lot harder to put baseball cards in the spokes.

Anyone?

aloft · December 27th, 2007, 23:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

Oh geez.

Fly the damned airplane, ladies!

Because when the autopilot's on MCO, and it's your leg, #### because your leg is your leg and you'd better bring your a-game.

Somebody missed the

tag!

PCL_128 · December 28th, 2007, 00:22

The only thing I really liked about the CRJ was how easy it was to slow it down in a hurry. Like Peanuckle said, you could take it 250 till the marker and easily have it slowed down and stable by 500 ft at the latest, usually by 1000 ft. Everything else kinda sucked, though: too noisy, climbs like a pig, hydraulic flight controls with unrealistic feel on the yoke, electronic gremlins in the cold, etc... Just not a very good airplane for an airliner.

mastermags · December 28th, 2007, 01:30

I actually only flew the 200 in the simulator, but the 700 is one of the best planes in the sky IMO.

jtrain609 · December 28th, 2007, 01:31

I don't fly the CRJ, but I do fly an ERJ around every once in a while.

I really don't understand the aircraft at all to tell you the truth. It's got an EMB-120 cockpit...ok it's basically an EMB-120 that got stretched, got a swept wing put on it and got jets put on the back.

To be honest, it's got some great systems that are extremely automated and in my experience, extremely reliable. But for all the cool systems, FADEC, glass, blah blah blah, it came out of the factory with a pair of handlebars and it hand flies like a mack truck. It's kind of confusing to tell you the truth.

BobDDuck · December 28th, 2007, 02:06

I dunno if the ERJ always flies like this, but I jumpseated on an Ex-OzarkAir flight and the FO (had about 8 months on the plane maybe) hand flew the approach in a series of 5-10 degree snap rolls. It was really sort of odd.

JEP · December 28th, 2007, 02:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by adreamer

Too funny.

On other hand,

Cockpit is bigger than DC-9
Landing in the windy day - "We are on the runway, centerline, still in one piece. After landing checklist."

LGA tower - can you accept LAHSO?
me - "Tower, do you want us to get off first turn off?"

back to topic, don't know too much about CRJ though

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

CRJ cockpit *is not* larger than a DC-9 by far. Where'd that one get started?

I think he was referring to the smash-8 that he flies for pdt.

PeanuckleCRJ · December 28th, 2007, 04:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by PCL_128

electronic gremlins in the cold, etc...

Don't get me wrong.. I actually loved the way the CRJ flew. I knew that I could fly that badboy accurately down to any weather condition with whatever happened.... but man....

If it's a cold morning..get in and get the APU running and the warm air flowing through the cockpit. Half the switches won't work until you get that flight deck the temp of an oven. You'd think the Canadians would design an airplane that would work nicely when it's cold soaked...

Anybody else really like the way the tiller felt?

ZapBrannigan · December 28th, 2007, 07:06

The Dash and CRJ have the same fuselage cross section. So both the Dash and CRJ have a significantly smaller cockpit than the DC9.

You could have a wedding in the 9 cockpit. In fact, when I went to the 737, I was disappointed in how much less space I had on the side.

These days i'm delighted if I have enough room to bring a pack of gum up front.

mikecweb · December 28th, 2007, 07:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan

These days i'm delighted if I have enough room to bring a pack of gum up front.

No kidding. The 35 is like a clown car. And for some strange reason it keeps getting smaller and smaller.

ZapBrannigan · December 28th, 2007, 07:35

Most airplanes you sit in. The Lear 31 you wear like a thong.

kellwolf · December 28th, 2007, 10:33

It's a love/hate relationship with me. I love it most of the time, but I hate it when I'm climbing through the mid-FL20s and above. The flare is jacked up. To those that say it flies nothing like a Cessna....it actually flares a LOT like a 172, just a whole heck of a lot faster. Try doing the flight deck inspection when it's freezing cold and the airplane is a popsicle, and you'll have to re-do about half of the tests after it warms up. It does hand fly fairly well, but I'm limited in my jet hand flying experience to the -200, so there's not much for me to compare it to. I've seen the books and manuals on the -900. It's nice and shiny, but I'm not gonna fly it until I can hold ATL CA with a decent schedule and afford to move back to Orlando.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeanuckleCRJ

Anybody else really like the way the tiller felt?

Not sure. I'll let ya know in a couple of months.

flyguy · December 28th, 2007, 12:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeanuckleCRJ

Don't get me wrong.. I actually loved the way the CRJ flew. I knew that I could fly that badboy accurately down to any weather condition with whatever happened.... but man....

If it's a cold morning..get in and get the APU running and the warm air flowing through the cockpit. Half the switches won't work until you get that flight deck the temp of an oven. You'd think the Canadians would design an airplane that would work nicely when it's cold soaked...

Anybody else really like the way the tiller felt?

Molsen logic

Well, I don't know actually. The laws of physics act a little differently in Canada. For example, In Canada cold air rises. This is why they put the air conditioning vents on the floor of the cabin.

Soku39 · December 28th, 2007, 14:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyguy

Molsen logic

Well, I don't know actually. The laws of physics act a little differently in Canada. For example, In Canada cold air rises. This is why they put the air conditioning vents on the floor of the cabin.

Thank you for making my day.

rdsoxpilot · December 28th, 2007, 19:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by JetsGoWhee

Flying the CRJ is no different than riding a bicycle...just a lot harder to put baseball cards in the spokes.

Anyone?

LMAO!!

That's my kind of humor.

Firebird2XC · December 28th, 2007, 20:54

Dunno.. it's close, but the CRJ I sat jumpseat in sure seemed bigger.

Heck, it's got room for a jumpseat.

Flying the Hondo was fun, but I don't miss that small cockpit at all. I used to feel like I was putting on a wetsuit rather than sitting down in a seat.

Maximillian_Jenius · December 28th, 2007, 21:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by inside0ut

First jet was the 200, now I fly the E175. Big difference between the two.

I loved the CRJ, it was soooo easy to do 250 to the marker, turn the pumps on, drop the gear, pull the brakes and have it on speed, on glideslope, configured about 2 seconds later. The 175? Not so much.

The 200 did have a autopilot that would break your teeth tho. On a turbulent or gusty day with the AP on you would get smacked. Thank god they changed that in the 7 and 9.

So, why don't you give us a detailed breakdown of how the 170/175 flies, what's good, what's bad, and how do you like the FBW and the fuzzy logic!?

coa787 · December 29th, 2007, 01:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan

Aircraft pitch attitude on final is surreal. It is extremely low so the transition from the approach pitch attitude to the flare pitch attitude is dramatic.

No kidding. I've seen CRJ's flown like this on final all the way down to flare height, but the pilots usually grease the landings.

Maximillian_Jenius · December 29th, 2007, 01:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by coa787

No kidding. I've seen CRJ's flown like this on final all the way down to flare height, but the pilots usually grease the landings.

...they have no leading edge slats!

Nick · December 29th, 2007, 01:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maximillian_Jenius

...they have no leading edge slats!

Where is the list of planes that have trailing edge slats?

coa787 · December 29th, 2007, 01:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maximillian_Jenius

...they have no leading edge slats!

Weird huh? But the -700's and -900's do.

Maximillian_Jenius · December 29th, 2007, 01:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick

Where is the list of planes that have trailing edge slats?

Yea, those are called trailing edge flaps!

Quote:

Originally Posted by coa787

Weird huh? But the -700's and -900's do.

Yes, yes they do!

December 27th, 2007, 21:49	#26
LoadMasterC141 Old Skool Join Date: May 2006 Location: Live in Temple, TX - From Ithaca, NY - Wish I was on an island in Fiji Posts: 1,905	Re: What's it like to fly the CRJ? I have made a dozen perfect landings in varying conditions in the 900....Uh...in MS FSX. Am I good to go? I even figured out the autopilot! (Ducks)

December 27th, 2007, 21:54	#27
JAM Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 246	Re: What's it like to fly the CRJ? The only jets I have significant time in are the -200 and the CE750. I like the hand flying feel of the -200 better than the X. It is definitely easier to land. Consistent greasers, even for a Comair Academy "kid" out of the seminole (must have been the Bombardier engineers dumbing down the cockpit for me ). However, when I ask the X to do something for me (like climb at 2000fpm to FL410 or get over that cell at FL490), it can do it. When I asked the -200, it gave me 500 fpm above FL200 and topped out at FL310 (if I was lucky).

December 27th, 2007, 23:36	#29
JetsGoWhee Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Virginia'ing Posts: 137	Re: What's it like to fly the CRJ? Flying the CRJ is no different than riding a bicycle...just a lot harder to put baseball cards in the spokes. Anyone? __________________

December 28th, 2007, 00:22	#31
PCL_128 Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: ATL Posts: 3,228	Re: What's it like to fly the CRJ? The only thing I really liked about the CRJ was how easy it was to slow it down in a hurry. Like Peanuckle said, you could take it 250 till the marker and easily have it slowed down and stable by 500 ft at the latest, usually by 1000 ft. Everything else kinda sucked, though: too noisy, climbs like a pig, hydraulic flight controls with unrealistic feel on the yoke, electronic gremlins in the cold, etc... Just not a very good airplane for an airliner. __________________ Not one nickel, not one job. No concessions!

December 28th, 2007, 01:30	#32
mastermags Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Atlanta, Ga Posts: 1,300	Re: What's it like to fly the CRJ? I actually only flew the 200 in the simulator, but the 700 is one of the best planes in the sky IMO. __________________ http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mastermags2/ If you are racist, I will invade you with the North. CFI, CFII, MEI, CRJ-700 FO, humanitarian

December 28th, 2007, 01:31	#33
jtrain609 Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Park City, UT Posts: 12,100	Re: What's it like to fly the CRJ? I don't fly the CRJ, but I do fly an ERJ around every once in a while. I really don't understand the aircraft at all to tell you the truth. It's got an EMB-120 cockpit...ok it's basically an EMB-120 that got stretched, got a swept wing put on it and got jets put on the back. To be honest, it's got some great systems that are extremely automated and in my experience, extremely reliable. But for all the cool systems, FADEC, glass, blah blah blah, it came out of the factory with a pair of handlebars and it hand flies like a mack truck. It's kind of confusing to tell you the truth. __________________ "I could stand at the end of the line of the general mills cereal plant to make sure that all the lucky charms are up to par for 38k a year." -snickersnwa

December 28th, 2007, 02:06	#34
BobDDuck Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Left Seat Posts: 5,340	Re: What's it like to fly the CRJ? I dunno if the ERJ always flies like this, but I jumpseated on an Ex-OzarkAir flight and the FO (had about 8 months on the plane maybe) hand flew the approach in a series of 5-10 degree snap rolls. It was really sort of odd. __________________ TBJC08 The Gear Monkey The Gear Monkey Store

December 28th, 2007, 07:06	#37
ZapBrannigan Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Mom n' Pop Retailer Posts: 665	Re: What's it like to fly the CRJ? The Dash and CRJ have the same fuselage cross section. So both the Dash and CRJ have a significantly smaller cockpit than the DC9. You could have a wedding in the 9 cockpit. In fact, when I went to the 737, I was disappointed in how much less space I had on the side. These days i'm delighted if I have enough room to bring a pack of gum up front. __________________ ATP Types (LRJET / B737 / SF340 / BAe3101) SIC (DC9 / CRJ / D328) CFI, CFII, MEI, AGI, IGI, Aircraft Dispatcher.

December 28th, 2007, 07:35	#39
ZapBrannigan Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Mom n' Pop Retailer Posts: 665	Re: What's it like to fly the CRJ? Most airplanes you sit in. The Lear 31 you wear like a thong. __________________ ATP Types (LRJET / B737 / SF340 / BAe3101) SIC (DC9 / CRJ / D328) CFI, CFII, MEI, AGI, IGI, Aircraft Dispatcher.

December 28th, 2007, 20:54	#44
Firebird2XC Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Big D Posts: 1,323	Re: What's it like to fly the CRJ? Dunno.. it's close, but the CRJ I sat jumpseat in sure seemed bigger. Heck, it's got room for a jumpseat. Flying the Hondo was fun, but I don't miss that small cockpit at all. I used to feel like I was putting on a wetsuit rather than sitting down in a seat. __________________ “The conduct of TSA was cruel and unnecessary,” said Ms Allred. “The last time that I checked a nipple was not a dangerous weapon.” - Charlie (credentials in profile)

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