AA EAGLE 300hr mins.

[Ami]

Guys,If you all go to www.aviationinterviews.com you will see that people are getting hired at AE with 350TT and about 50 ME..... That is not a joke.

[atpn2008]

Originally Posted by Ami

Guys,If you all go to www.aviationinterviews.com you will see that people are getting hired at AE with 350TT and about 50 ME..... That is not a joke.

How long do you think this will last with AE?

[LoadMasterC141]

Let me get out the crystal ball deary...hehe...just kiddin dude.

My opinion: They will be as desperate as they are now until the final guy hired before the three year hiring freeze makes Captain. Then upgrade time will drop from 7-8 years to 4-5. That is still high though, so I would expect they won't be short of openings even then, especially given that they are going to be sold away from AA this year.

[Ami]

Originally Posted by atpn2008

How long do you think this will last with AE?

I have no idea. I think it might take sometime before it changes. Lots of airlines will hire people with as low as 250 TT these days which is good for young pilots but very bad for student pilots.... All of the flight schools are hurting right now....

[atpn2008]

Originally Posted by Ami

I have no idea. I think it might take sometime before it changes. Lots of airlines will hire people with as low as 250 TT these days which is good for young pilots but very bad for student pilots.... All of the flight schools are hurting right now....

I just received this email; Does anyone know if LAX is still open as a choice and what type of equipment would one start with if they went to LAX?






American Eagle Airlines would like to announce their next upcoming First Officer job fair. We are now requiring 500 hours of total time and 100 hours of multi time. We will also accept applications with 400 hours of total time and 50 hours of multi time. Please see our website for further details.
*Advanced registration is not needed to attend the job fair.
American Eagle Airlines would like to announce that Flight Safety will join them at the upcoming job fair to be held at the Holiday Inn Select O’Hare. Flight Safety will be available to speak to those applicants in attendance about available programs currently being offered at Flight Safety Academy in Vero Beach, FL.

Upcoming Job Fair:

January 12, 2008-Chicago, IL
Holiday Inn Select O’Hare
10233 West Higgins Road
Rosemont, IL 60018
A presentation will begin at 10:00 a.m. and will be followed by a Q & A session and prescreening interviews. First Officer Interviews, consisting of a Human Resource interview and a Technical interview, will be held at the hotel for qualified pilots. Pilots selected during this interview process will be scheduled to come to Dallas to complete the Simulator portion of the interview. Please bring a resume’ or complete an application online at www.americaneaglecareers.com and bring the application with you to the job fair. Details regarding current minimums and other requirements for an interview can be found on our website. American Eagle currently has domicile selection program, with selection from available bases made prior to the start of training. Please email Karen at AmericanEagle@airlineapps.com for questions regarding any upcoming job fairs.

Karen Floyd
American Eagle
Pilot Recruitment
americaneagle@airlineapps.com
www.americaneaglecareers.com

[aviationizhere]

If you get hired by AA eagle are you going to be working directly for them or a branch off company of them (piedmont, etc.).

[JEP]

Originally Posted by aviationizhere

If you get hired by AA eagle are you going to be working directly for them or a branch off company of them (piedmont, etc.).

Hired by Eagle and Hired by Piedmont are two different things.

Hired by Eagle - flying for eagle-

[CaptainCrickettMan]

Originally Posted by atpn2008

How long do you think this will last with AE?

Some guys asked the same question when Eagle went from 1000TT to 800TT. It got lower; 600TT and now 400TT. It will go down from here because the demand is so high. The trick is to raise the payscale, not lower the standards. There are qualified pilots out there but not enough who will take a job flying jets for peanuts and crumbs.

And yes, LAX is still a choice. More than likely you will fly the Saab 340. Great airplane!

[av8rdrew]

It's about time our domestic carriers have gotten with the program. European and Asian carriers have been doing this for decades with their ab-initio programs. I know someone who got on with United (mainline) about eight years ago with about 350-400 hours straight into a 737. It was unbelivable then and now he's FO on a 777. I don't know who knew him, but it most of been someone who can make things happen. I trained with this guy some and he got the job offer about a week after he got his CFI.

As for Eagle, this is good for the industry I think as the airlines can get some younger pilots and groom these people to think 121 early in their aviation careers, pay them less (unfortunate), offer more flights, make more money and be more stable ~ in theory. The unfortunate reality is that many of the people who run airlines have no idea how to make them work and the guys at the top bail when things get bad, take all the money and leave the employee's to deal with their f--k ups.

Just my two cents!

[MarkE]

Originally Posted by av8rdrew

It's about time our domestic carriers have gotten with the program. European and Asian carriers have been doing this for decades with their ab-initio programs. I know someone who got on with United (mainline) about eight years ago with about 350-400 hours straight into a 737. It was unbelivable then and now he's FO on a 777. I don't know who knew him, but it most of been someone who can make things happen. I trained with this guy some and he got the job offer about a week after he got his CFI.

As for Eagle, this is good for the industry I think as the airlines can get some younger pilots and groom these people to think 121 early in their aviation careers, pay them less (unfortunate), offer more flights, make more money and be more stable ~ in theory. The unfortunate reality is that many of the people who run airlines have no idea how to make them work and the guys at the top bail when things get bad, take all the money and leave the employee's to deal with their f--k ups.

Just my two cents!

I'm not trying to be a smart ass here but how is paying theses guys less good for the industry?

[av8rdrew]

I didn't say it was good to pay pilots less, I said it would be unfortunate, re-read the post. I also said in theory, the airlines can offer more flights if they have more pilots, they can fill more seats and make more money and that would be good for the industry and the pilots. The operative words here being "in theory", reality is something totally different. I also said that many of the folks running these airlines pillage the companies and bolt just before the ship sinks and leave the employee's behind to clean up the mess, if there's anything left to be cleaned up.

Originally Posted by MarkE

I'm not trying to be a smart ass here but how is paying theses guys less good for the industry?

[wrxpilot]

Originally Posted by av8rdrew

It's about time our domestic carriers have gotten with the program. European and Asian carriers have been doing this for decades with their ab-initio programs. I know someone who got on with United (mainline) about eight years ago with about 350-400 hours straight into a 737. It was unbelivable then and now he's FO on a 777.

I call BS on this one. No way that happened.

[flyTotheSky]

Originally Posted by wrxpilot

I call BS on this one. No way that happened.

Well I wouldn't entirely rule it out. United had a flight operations internship going on throughout the 90s that was conistently hiring low time guys that had completed the internship and had gotten their degree. Many had only had around 300-500 hours. Yes, they were a small percentage of all the incoming new-hires but from what I've heard they were all successful with training.

[av8rdrew]

Do a little research on United in the late 80's and early 90's and you will find that they did a good bit of this. Many of the people didn't have time this low, but were he's not the only one who came in under that "program". He's the only one I know who did it with under 1,000 hours, but I've heard of others. As for this person, he came after the time period I mentioned, but he did it.

Someone else placed a post about their internship program and this guy did go through an internship about a year to year and a half earlier with them. The bottom line is he got in. I trained with him some and I know he got the job a week after he got his CFI. I have nothing to gain or no reason to BS anyone in here; it happened and he's still there, now FO on a 777. Quite as it's kept, all of the majors do this sort of thing. In this industry, who knows you matters even more than who you know.

Originally Posted by wrxpilot

I call BS on this one. No way that happened.

[wrxpilot]

Originally Posted by av8rdrew

Do a little research on United in the late 80's and early 90's and you will find that they did a good bit of this. Many of the people didn't have time this low, but were he's not the only one who came in under that "program". He's the only one I know who did it with under 1,000 hours, but I've heard of others. As for this person, he came after the time period I mentioned, but he did it.

Wow. That's pretty amazing then!

[PGT]

I wouldn't go to eagle if it was 200/10

By the time you upgrade at Eagle, you can have enough PIC at another carrier to get on with a major.

[LoadMasterC141]

[Bumblebee]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrickettMan

And yes, LAX is still a choice. More than likely you will fly the Saab 340. Great airplane!

SAAB (Slow As A Brick) Keep that thing out of my way you guys!