Commercial before CFI?

[Dispatch1]

I have been told I have to have a commercial license before i can get a CFI, is this true. I just started my flight training only got 15 hours, still got a long way to go. I would love to get a CFI. What do I need to do to get a CFI.

[BajtheJino]

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[v1valarob]

Private pilot, Then Instrument, Then Commercial, Then CFI.

There are no hourly requirements to get your CFI ticket, however there are hourly requirements for a commercial ticket as posted above. To legally fly for money, you need a commercial license.

-Rob

[subpilot]

You can become a sports pilot CFI with only a sports pilot certificate.

[MidlifeFlyer]

If you want to be either a commercial pilot or a CFI you need to learn how to read the regulations that apply to the requirements.

[scramjet]

Originally Posted by MidlifeFlyer

If you want to be either a commercial pilot or a CFI you need to learn how to read the regulations that apply to the requirements.

touché

[bike21]

Originally Posted by MidlifeFlyer

If you want to be either a commercial pilot or a CFI you need to learn how to read the regulations that apply to the requirements.

Originally Posted by scramjet

touché

Easy there fellas, homeboy said he only has 15 hours. I'll bet few of us could dig through the FARs at 15 hours and pick through it for all the right answers.

[BajtheJino]

True. But I did know how to ask my instructor such questions instead of the interweb!

[mtsu_av8er]

There's nothing wrong with asking these kinds of questions on JC . . . that's what it's here for. If these aren't good questions, then why don't we shut the site down?

[secretapproach]

Originally Posted by mtsu_av8er

There's nothing wrong with asking these kinds of questions on JC . . . that's what it's here for. If these aren't good questions, then why don't we shut the site down?

Thank you, mtsu! Instead of whining about the guy asking a simple question, just don't answer him. That's better than making him feel unwelcome. Internet discussion boards have a strange way of making people more agressive towards each other than they would be live and in the flesh. Jetcareers is pretty civilized, but sheesh people, it was just a simple question.

[H46Bubba]

What is it that DPE always tell you? Oh yeah......use all available resources! JC is a very good resource with the wide variety of characters we have on here. But it is good practice to back up the info by looking at the actual FARs. I'm currently not flying, so I have no instructor to go to. I've got the FARs and I read them when I need to get some info, but sometimes it's good to get another point of view or interpretation of what your trying to find out.

[MikeOH58]

Originally Posted by Dispatch1

I have been told I have to have a commercial license before i can get a CFI, is this true. I just started my flight training only got 15 hours, still got a long way to go. I would love to get a CFI. What do I need to do to get a CFI.

Ask yourself this...What do I need to get my PPL? You're not even half way through at the bare mininums. Honest question, and i'm not knocking you, but maybe you should be looking at the NOW and not months or even years down the road...Focus on the rating you are currently pursuing. Learn everything there is to know about being a PPL. It will make you a better CFI when the time comes, and if you just focus on the touchdown, you are going to miss a lot of things in between.

[mtsu_av8er]

Originally Posted by MikeOH58

Ask yourself this...What do I need to get my PPL? You're not even half way through at the bare mininums. Honest question, and i'm not knocking you, but maybe you should be looking at the NOW and not months or even years down the road...

I disagree. There's nothing wrong with looking that far into the future.

I did the same stuff when I was a student pilot . . . that's how you learn.

[granlistillo]

Originally Posted by subpilot

You can become a sports pilot CFI with only a sports pilot certificate.

Ive read that too in the FARs but can you be paid for it? I dont see why not. I guess you are limited to the LSA that you have the category and class rating for. BTW, This seems like a step toward the european system where you can get your FI under the JAR FCL rules with a Private, but only teach at the private level.

[Crockrocket94]

Woah woah woah guys.

We are here to provide insight and answers, not ridicule.

[granlistillo]

Originally Posted by Crockrocket94

Woah woah woah guys.
We are here to provide insight and answers, not ridicule.

Not only is it a jerky thing to do, but it might not be totally correct.

I wish I would have ask this question before I spend $20k on getting from 85 hrs up to 250 hrs. Although American, my business and home is in europe. I found out too late that, with a FAA PPL, 100 hrs you can do a checkride conversion followed by a $10k flight instructor course, you can teach the ppl . And about the one thing that transfers universally in the ICAO world is flight time. So had i done some research, i would have been netted $35k for that time and been able to get the IR and Commercial done part 61.

Assuming he doesn't want to or cant go to europe, Now the questions he may want to consider is can you count LSA hours in sport pilot certificate for hour requirements for advanced ratings in airplanes? can he be paid for it?

[N826AW]

Looking at the now and not at the future is how guys end up at places like DCA and Gulfstream.

[MikeOH58]

Originally Posted by HP N826AW

Looking at the now and not at the future is how guys end up at places like DCA and Gulfstream.

I would say the complete opposite...Looking so deep into the future that your foaming from the mouth to get paid is how guys end up at places like DCA and Gulfstream...

Listen, of course you have to look into the future...Honestly, if you didn't then you would be foolish...What i'm saying in this post isn't specific to the original poster, but a generalization....

Look into the future, but don't forget what your working on now. You can make it from A-Z, but don't forget the steps in between.

[mtsu_av8er]

Originally Posted by HP N826AW

Looking at the now and not at the future is how guys end up at places like DCA and Gulfstream.

Exactly.

[MikeOH58]

I still find that hard to swallow...I don't see how you can say that the guy who actually takes his time, focus's on the rating at hand, and wants to learn everything he can about the certification he is working on is more inclined to go through one of those tool school over someone who says I want to be an airline pilot, or I want to get paid to do this. If you ask me, the guy who is focusing on eppaulets and crash pads is a lot more likely to go to one of those places over the guy who cares about steep turns and carb ice.

[subpilot]

Originally Posted by granlistillo

Now the questions he may want to consider is can you count LSA hours in sport pilot certificate for hour requirements for advanced ratings in airplanes? can he be paid for it?

As a LSA pilot and instructor the hours do count because it is still ASEL time. As for getting paid for it, YES you can. That is a FAQ on the EAA website. Sort of in line with getting paid to instruct with only a 3rd class medical or even with no medical. A lot of people will argue that you can not get paid unless you have at least a 2nd class medical because flight instruction is a commercial operation. They would be wrong though.

[MidlifeFlyer]

I'm going to apologize for my response. By way of excuse, I didn't notice that the poster only had 15 hours.

Trouble is that I've seen people with more experience ask similar questions and based on asking about the qualifications for CFI, jumped to an incorrect conclusion.

[mtsu_av8er]

Originally Posted by MidlifeFlyer

Trouble is that I've seen people with more experience ask similar questions and based on asking about the qualifications for CFI, jumped to an incorrect conclusion.

Not the case here . . . not even close.