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Old November 24th, 2007, 19:31   #1
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Default Denver - 172RG Gear Up Landing @ APA (Video)

I think it happened yesterday? Not a bad landing and at least he didn't forget to put it down!

Link to video is in the article under Side Bar & Related Videos:

http://www.myfoxcolorado.com/myfox/p...Y&pageId=3.2.1
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Old November 24th, 2007, 19:39   #2
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Wow, I am glad it went the way it did. Bravo, to the PIC on board.
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Old November 24th, 2007, 20:57   #3
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Right on the centerline, too! (BTW, that's the airplane I did most of my CFI traiing in).

Only downside - as usual, the media made a bigger deal of it than it was. Like it was some miracle they landed safely.
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Old November 24th, 2007, 22:43   #4
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Wow. Thanks for sharing.
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Old November 24th, 2007, 23:11   #5
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Cool... wonder what happened with the gear. I'm always curious what happens with gear up incidents, especially with an emergency manual control at hand.
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Old November 25th, 2007, 04:34   #6
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Good thing the Gutlass' prop always stops in the horizontal position. Kudos to the PIC for making the best out of a bad situation.
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Old November 25th, 2007, 05:28   #7
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That's good those guys are ok...But shouldn't they have cut the engine before landing? It looked like the prop bounced off the runway.
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Old November 25th, 2007, 06:33   #8
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That's good those guys are ok...But shouldn't they have cut the engine before landing? It looked like the prop bounced off the runway.
forget what I said....found a checklist that shows the procedure:

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GEAR UP LANDING

1. Landing Gear Lever -- UP.
2. Landing Gear and Gear Pump Circuit Breakers -- IN.
3. Runway -- SELECT longest hard surface or smooth sod runway available.
4. Wing Flaps - - 300 (on final approach).
5. Airspeed -- 65 KIAS.
6. Doors -- UNLATCH PRIOR TO TOUCHDOWN.
7. Avionics Power and Master Switches -- OFF when landing is assured.
8. Touchdown -- SLIGHTLY TAIL LOW.
9. Mixture -- IDLE CUT-OFF.

10. Ignition Switch -- OFF.
11. Fuel Selector Valve -- OFF.
12. Airplane -- EVACUATE.
.....and after watching it again, it appears the engine was running well after they had the rw made.???
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Old November 25th, 2007, 10:11   #9
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Who cares about the engine? THat is what insurance is for! Hate to kill the engine only to decide they needed to go around again for some reason.
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Who cares about the engine? THat is what insurance is for! Hate to kill the engine only to decide they needed to go around again for some reason.
Wouldn't make much of a difference. Unless you screwed around and tried to stop the prop, even with the engine off, the strike for the windmilling prop would require a teardown.
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Old November 25th, 2007, 12:42   #11
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That's good those guys are ok...But shouldn't they have cut the engine before landing? It looked like the prop bounced off the runway.
NO! Rule #1 get everyone on the ground! as was said, thats what the insurance is for.
Not saying it's wrong to kill the engine to try to save a prop and tear down, but only if it can be done safely!
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Not saying it's wrong to kill the engine to try to save a prop and tear down, but only if it can be done safely!
But why chance it?
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I like how they interviewed the student. Good job instructor! Well played.
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But why chance it?
and why not keep the go-around option alive?
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and why not keep the go-around option alive?
I agree, its wanting to shut down the engine to try and save it. I'm against that, that is for the insurance company.
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Old November 26th, 2007, 14:02   #16
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which school was it? aspen or flights, inc?

I'm moving to Denver in a couple of months.
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which school was it? aspen or flights, inc?

I'm moving to Denver in a couple of months.
Flights Inc. I think it was their 2nd RG to have an "incident" in the past few months.
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