Glad they opened up more airspace!

Seggy · November 16th, 2007, 14:38

Because I will 'only' be delayed about four hours today out of LGA!

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...m8U&refer=home

My first flight of the day is cjc4807, LGA-ALB, I think I will depart around 7:00 PM, normal scheduled departure is 2:55PM

They need more runways, not look for idiodic ways to create more airspace.

moxiepilot · November 16th, 2007, 14:41

it's good to hear that this express lane is working

OldTownPilot · November 16th, 2007, 14:44

It was just a publicity stunt so when there is good weather over the holiday weekend "W" can take credit for "saving the airlines, because GA wont with their user fees".

Its a shame that these "routes" are through the military area and not charted. All It will really do is make more space for for the airplanes to hold. Its really not an enroute problem, its more the NY terminal area, which doesn't have any of the so called "new airspace"

Murdoughnut · November 16th, 2007, 14:48

Do you think they should just limit the major airports (JFK, DFW, MIA, etc.) to a/c with at least X number of passengers. 4 regional jets with 50 people is 4x less efficient than 1 737 with 200 passengers. This would be a way to take some stress off of the IFR system - at least in these major cities.

OldTownPilot · November 16th, 2007, 14:55

I say that each airline cant fly more than 4 flights per day between EWR, LGA or JFK and any given outstation on airplanes with 50 seats or less.

This would leave most of the schedules intact, but force some of the ridiculous stuff to stop. How many 50 seat airplanes fly between NYC and RDU? I believe its on the order of 40.

Thats my opinion.

PS.....Mark, you starting your trip out of LGA? or did you overnight?

Seggy · November 16th, 2007, 15:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldTownPilot

PS.....Mark, you starting your trip out of LGA? or did you overnight?

Oh no my day started at 8:45AM in ALB with a deadhead to LGA. I will probably be on duty 10-11 hours before I touch an airplane with the intentions of flying it. Outstation basing SUCKS.

casey · November 16th, 2007, 17:14

its all publicity, those new routes still have a chokepoint at white or whatever the others south gates are. all for show.

Doug Taylor · November 16th, 2007, 17:34

Because, after all, those MOA's and Alert areas are usually pretty darned "hot" over the holiday weekends, ya know!

November 16th, 2007, 14:38	#1
Seggy Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Somewhere in the Northeast Posts: 5,044	Glad they opened up more airspace! Because I will 'only' be delayed about four hours today out of LGA! http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...m8U&refer=home My first flight of the day is cjc4807, LGA-ALB, I think I will depart around 7:00 PM, normal scheduled departure is 2:55PM They need more runways, not look for idiodic ways to create more airspace. __________________ www.alpa.org

November 16th, 2007, 14:41	#2
moxiepilot Old Skool Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: CFI / CFII in PA Posts: 2,633	Re: Glad they opened up more airspace! it's good to hear that this express lane is working

November 16th, 2007, 14:44	#3
OldTownPilot Old Skool Join Date: May 2005 Location: BGR (Bangor, ME) Posts: 2,898 Blog Entries: 4	Re: Glad they opened up more airspace! It was just a publicity stunt so when there is good weather over the holiday weekend "W" can take credit for "saving the airlines, because GA wont with their user fees". Its a shame that these "routes" are through the military area and not charted. All It will really do is make more space for for the airplanes to hold. Its really not an enroute problem, its more the NY terminal area, which doesn't have any of the so called "new airspace" __________________ As a wise man said, sumb!tch flew in, sumb!tch'll fly out. Ski Hard. Party Harder.

November 16th, 2007, 14:48	#4
Murdoughnut Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 2,479	Re: Glad they opened up more airspace! Do you think they should just limit the major airports (JFK, DFW, MIA, etc.) to a/c with at least X number of passengers. 4 regional jets with 50 people is 4x less efficient than 1 737 with 200 passengers. This would be a way to take some stress off of the IFR system - at least in these major cities. __________________ My training blog ...http://murdoughnut.blogspot.com/

November 16th, 2007, 14:55	#5
OldTownPilot Old Skool Join Date: May 2005 Location: BGR (Bangor, ME) Posts: 2,898 Blog Entries: 4	Re: Glad they opened up more airspace! I say that each airline cant fly more than 4 flights per day between EWR, LGA or JFK and any given outstation on airplanes with 50 seats or less. This would leave most of the schedules intact, but force some of the ridiculous stuff to stop. How many 50 seat airplanes fly between NYC and RDU? I believe its on the order of 40. Thats my opinion. PS.....Mark, you starting your trip out of LGA? or did you overnight? __________________ As a wise man said, sumb!tch flew in, sumb!tch'll fly out. Ski Hard. Party Harder.

November 16th, 2007, 17:14	#7
casey Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: abe Posts: 863	Re: Glad they opened up more airspace! its all publicity, those new routes still have a chokepoint at white or whatever the others south gates are. all for show.

November 16th, 2007, 17:34	#8
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 40,240 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Glad they opened up more airspace! Because, after all, those MOA's and Alert areas are usually pretty darned "hot" over the holiday weekends, ya know! __________________ Doug Taylor http://76school.flyblog.com (old!) http://30west.flyblog.com (updated 11/28)

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