Taxi to vs. Hold short

[Omdahl]

This is out of the 7110.65

b. When authorizing an aircraft to taxi to an
assigned takeoff runway and hold short instructions
are not issued, specify the runway preceded by “taxi
to,” and issue taxi instructions if necessary. This
authorizes the aircraft to “cross” all runways/taxiways
which the taxi route intersects except the
assigned takeoff runway. This does not authorize the
aircraft to “enter” or “cross” the assigned takeoff
runway at any point.

PHRASEOLOGY−
TAXI TO RUNWAY (number) VIA . . ..

EXAMPLE−
“Taxi to Runway One Two.”
“Taxi to Runway Three Six via Taxiway Echo.”
or
“Taxi to Runway Three Six via Echo.”

c. Specify the runway for departure, any necessary
taxi instructions, and hold short restrictions when an
aircraft will be required to hold short of a runway or
other points along the taxi route.

EXAMPLE−
“Runway Three Six Left, taxi via taxiway Alpha, hold short
of taxiway Charlie.”
or
“Runway Three Six Left, taxi via Alpha, hold short of
Charlie.”

d. Request a read back of runway hold short
instructions when it is not received from the
pilot/vehicle operator.

[MidlifeFlyer]

Originally Posted by PurduePilot

You need explicit clearance to cross or taxi onto any runway, especially the one which you will be using to takeoff from.

Just for accuracy, not quite. A "taxi to" instruction authorizes you to cross runways along the way.


...as Ohmdahl's excerpt from the ATC Handbook (that has an equivalent in the AIM) points out.

[ghogue]

Originally Posted by PurduePilot

You need explicit clearance to cross or taxi onto any runway, especially the one which you will be using to takeoff from.

Not so. A clearance to "taxi to runway xx" is clearance to cross or taxi onto any runway except the one you have been cleared to, unless an instruction to hold short of a specific runway is issued.


edit. Sorry. Late again. Missed the above two posts.

[usphsfnp]

Originally Posted by PurduePilot

From my limited experience in the ATC world, if you mentioned "hold short" in a clearance that wasn't explicitly told as much I would get pissed too....

...You need explicit clearance to cross or taxi onto any runway, especially the one which you will be using to takeoff from.

If you yelled at me for crossing a rwy enroute to the active that you authorized me to taxi to, I'd be pissed

[PurduePilot]

Originally Posted by MidlifeFlyer

Just for accuracy, not quite. A "taxi to" instruction authorizes you to cross runways along the way.


...as Ohmdahl's excerpt from the ATC Handbook (that has an equivalent in the AIM) points out.

A "taxi to" is one of the explicit clearances I was talking about.