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Old November 10th, 2007, 00:48   #1
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I was just curious to know if starting an Air Cargo or charter business with caravans is lucrative? My goal is to become an Airline Pilot but I also like business and It's going to be my major in college. I could rent out like 5 Caravans and charter them around the caribbean cheaper then most airlines! Once I get big I could get some Jets or twin turboprops and expand! How much starting money would I need, and where can I go to get more info, this is something I want to do once I retire from a Legacy or NetJets... lol
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I dream of starting my own charter company too!

Caravans, I'm no expert but I guess they'd be good for certain types of charter. They're also good freight workhorses. I'm sure others will chime in!
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aren't new caravans like 1.5-2.0 million? so you are looking at roughly 10 million just for aircraft


edit:yup http://caravan.cessna.com/financing.chtml
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Old November 10th, 2007, 02:19   #4
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aren't new caravans like 1.5-2.0 million? so you are looking at roughly 10 million just for aircraft


edit:yup http://caravan.cessna.com/financing.chtml
I think you lease them instead of buying them straight up like that lol

yea scramjet maybe we can become business partners in the near future...
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I could rent out like 5 Caravans and charter them around the caribbean cheaper then most airlines!
How do you know that? While you need to make every flight count, the airlines could dump seats against you and make up the difference somewhere else.
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How do you know that? While you need to make every flight count, the airlines could dump seats against you and make up the difference somewhere else.
That's why I hate the idea of Virgin America in the United States.
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That's why I hate the idea of Virgin America in the United States.
It's gonna be interesting to see how they do with $100.00 oil.
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It's gonna be interesting to see how they do with $100.00 oil.
Aren't we all in that same boat?

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Aren't we all in that same boat?

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Some, not you brotha!, still have their gasoline paid for by another carrier.

It MAY be part of the capacity feed contract or not, but as we approach and surpass $100/bbl oil, it's going to get very interesting on all levels.
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How do you know that? While you need to make every flight count, the airlines could dump seats against you and make up the difference somewhere else.
I suppose it would depend on the type of Caravan and what kind of routes are being flown. I could see something like a charter for island hoppers to be quite a nice little niche, especially with the Caravan Amphib.

But compete against airlines on routes like KFLL to MYAM? Probably not.
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Its fairly easy to get a Caravan busy flying jumpers. Think 20% down to get started. Get a nest egg of 200-300k and get going!. Or start with a 182 and work up from there. Any plane will make you money if you can get it flying a lot, even a 150.

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I'm a firm believer that no one has ever made money in aviation.
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Old November 10th, 2007, 07:49   #13
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There's an old saying about aviation that I've proven to be true...

The best way to make a small fortune in aviation is to start with a big one.

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Old November 10th, 2007, 09:22   #14
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Aviation....any kind of aviation....is a tuff cut throat business. Most Caravans stateside are being used in cargo ops of one kind or another. In other places in the world they are used for both pax and cargo on a regular basis. Hell I know a charter operation in Botswana that is doing okay with 206's 210's and two C90's.
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Take a look at Linear Air, www.linearair.com, out of KBED. They are doing well and have just got their first of 30 Eclipse 500's.
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I'm a firm believer that no one has ever made money in aviation.
You should see my former bosses house, boat, lake house and not to mention his wife.
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I suppose it would depend on the type of Caravan and what kind of routes are being flown. I could see something like a charter for island hoppers to be quite a nice little niche, especially with the Caravan Amphib.

But compete against airlines on routes like KFLL to MYAM? Probably not.
Yea Island hoping, caravan amphibian would be nice for these missions
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I'm a firm believer that no one has ever made money in aviation.
Even the various flight academies?
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Old November 10th, 2007, 23:35   #19
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Even the various flight academies?
yea I was thinking about that too.. come on people, chime in on how lucrative an aviation business can be!
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Caravans... they look like they're pregnant and may scatter offspring to the wind at any given moment. But I guess they're pretty utilitarian...
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I was just curious to know if starting an Air Cargo or charter business with caravans is lucrative? My goal is to become an Airline Pilot but I also like business and It's going to be my major in college. I could rent out like 5 Caravans and charter them around the caribbean cheaper then most airlines! Once I get big I could get some Jets or twin turboprops and expand! How much starting money would I need, and where can I go to get more info, this is something I want to do once I retire from a Legacy or NetJets... lol
If you wanna fly around the islands then check out these guys... www.seaborneairlines.com
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