Weird Non Rev Story - Page 3

Seggy · November 4th, 2007, 17:13

I'm going to beat you down Cruise

I know my place in life right now. I am a lowly Colgan Express 19hondy driver.

Cruise · November 4th, 2007, 17:17

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Originally Posted by Seggy

I'm going to beat you down Cruise

I know my place in life right now. I am a lowly Colgan Express 19hondy driver.

Seggy · November 4th, 2007, 17:18

That is just weird.

OldTownPilot · November 4th, 2007, 17:21

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Originally Posted by Seggy

What a toolbag.

For NJC 2006 I filled out the jumpseat form for the America West operated flight and clearly wrote Colgan Air on it. The gate agent saw my ID saying USAIRWAYS EXPRESS and wrote in another area of it USAIRWAYS. When BobDDuck showed up the agent told him that he was behind an Airways guy. It was miscommunication on part of the gate agent. It all worked out in the end.

No freaking way in the world would I say I was a mainline pilot when I am not.

How did a gate agent confuse you with a 50+ year old Airways FO????????? The youngest guy that was not furloughed had to have been at least 40

Cruise · November 4th, 2007, 17:22

You know.....you're right. Now that I'm looking at it closer.....wtf are they doing?

It's the beat down....butt bang action.

Seggy · November 4th, 2007, 17:25

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Originally Posted by OldTownPilot

How did a gate agent confuse you with a 50+ year old Airways FO????????? The youngest guy that was not furloughed had to have been at least 40

It was an America West gate agent that handled it. AMWEST has a lot of younger guys on their roster. That might have been part of it. Who knows. I just wanted to make it clear that I was not trying to pass off as an Airways FO.

Texguy · November 4th, 2007, 17:44

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Originally Posted by Alchemy

He was making out with a chick so it had to be skywest. Those guys are so GQ.

H46Bubba · November 4th, 2007, 18:11

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Originally Posted by Alchemy

He was making out with a chick so it had to be skywest. Those guys are so GQ.

No sarcasm tag needed there!

ERfly · November 5th, 2007, 00:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seggy

I'm going to beat you down Cruise

I know my place in life right now. I am a lowly Colgan Express 19hondy driver.

Dude! You're not even Colgan Mainline, let alone Airways mainline!

Seriously, though. He should have known better. I commuted on CAL for way too long. I knew there was no shot in hell of getting a First Class seat domestically (especially not the West Coast). Everybody and their brother were slamming their boarding passes on the counter demanding their free upgrades.

Coach, non-reclining middle seat please. If possible, can it be next to the two biggest guys on the airplane, please. Oh and please make the screens come down so Baldy can come on tell me what great people he works with and how "In the future," he'll try hard.

The joys of commuting.

X-Forces · November 5th, 2007, 00:25

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Originally Posted by Ian J

Think of the countless non-revs per day who do the right thing. This guy was just a 10 percenter.

Man, I haven't heard that in a while!

EDUC8-or · November 5th, 2007, 08:50

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Originally Posted by OldTownPilot

How did a gate agent confuse you with a 50+ year old Airways FO????????? The youngest guy that was not furloughed had to have been at least 40

There are some east side guys who have been recalled that are in their early 30's.

Ian J · November 5th, 2007, 08:55

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Originally Posted by X-Forces

Man, I haven't heard that in a while!

When I was a company commander, those 10 percenters drove me insane.

Doug Taylor · November 5th, 2007, 10:16

In retrospect, I betchya he's a 1%'er!

You know when someone's actions are so absurd, you start looking for cameramen and a microphone boom because you think you're getting 'punked'!

OldTownPilot · November 5th, 2007, 10:28

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Originally Posted by EDUC8-or

There are some east side guys who have been recalled that are in their early 30's.

yeah but the story happened a year ago

greaper007 · November 6th, 2007, 21:02

When I lie I go for the gold. Why say that you fly for US Airways, when you fly for Colgan. I tell the chicks (and interested guys) that I'm captain on Air Force 1.

Seriously though, this is exactly why I don't give passes to some people I know. For instance I'll give passes all day to one of my in-laws. However, after I've seen how his wife treats wait staff at restaurants. There's no way she's flying on my passes (thank god she thinks too highly of herself to non-rev).

I received an early primer on non-reving from my mom and dad. We were told that if we acted out of line my dad would lose his job. Nothing like the fear economic retribution to keep kids in line. I still have a sort of ingrained feeling of that non-reving today, even on my own passes.

FlyChicaga · November 7th, 2007, 02:02

This is why I'm glad I commute on an all-coach class carrier.

The sense of entitlement of some pilots is just astounding to me.

Soul Brotha' · November 7th, 2007, 08:16

I hate to say this, but there are some real tools at OH. The senior guys make it real hard for some of us. Some of the things I've seen while riding DL makes me embarassed at times. Of the few times that I've had to ride up front, the DL pilots let me know what they think about our senior guys. They really don't have a problem with relatively new guys. What can one do?

Bumblebee · November 7th, 2007, 11:29

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Originally Posted by Kristie

now that i think about it, this may make a really good topic for next years NJC roundtable session....

duly noted . . .

Bumblebee · November 7th, 2007, 11:37

response to Seggy . . .

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Originally Posted by Cruise

Sure, you say that now. Don't want to get called out as the poser you are. I understand....you were beaten as a child.

then ignored

Seggy · November 7th, 2007, 11:40

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Originally Posted by bumblebee

response to Seggy . . .

then ignored

I think I said I am going to beat him down.

Ophir · November 7th, 2007, 12:28

Doug Taylor · November 7th, 2007, 12:54

It's true though. If someone misbehaves while using one of your passes, you will have your privileges suspended.

If things get a little stupid, a good dose of humility and a sprinkle of humor can generally calm the situation. Flight attendants love the Non-rev with an entitlement complex because they've usually got an airplane full of folks that have similar entitlement complexes, but are paying passengers. When the non-rev does it, now you're a clay pigeon!

SteveC · November 7th, 2007, 13:10

"Pull!"

Getburned · November 7th, 2007, 17:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soul Brotha'

I hate to say this, but there are some real tools at OH. The senior guys make it real hard for some of us. Some of the things I've seen while riding DL makes me embarassed at times. Of the few times that I've had to ride up front, the DL pilots let me know what they think about our senior guys. They really don't have a problem with relatively new guys. What can one do?

I'm with you 100%, I've been treated relatively well by DL pilots but they do let me know what they think on occasion, and they know I wasn't there when it happened. At least at this point most of those guys who caused the problem are gone, and the ones that remain aren't looking to go anywhere anyhow. I just hope it doesn't hurt my chances down the road at DL.

Ecl!pse · November 7th, 2007, 22:30

Here is a question, though it may be silly. Does ALPA, or any pilot union for that matter, have a Professional Pilot's Code of Ethics? Everyone talks a lot about "jumpseat etiquette", or other "etiquette's", but is there a spelled out code of ethic's for pilots? Many of the other well respected professions have one, like engineering, law, medicine, etc., why not for pilots?

November 4th, 2007, 17:13	#51
Seggy Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Somewhere in the Northeast Posts: 5,121	Re: Weird Non Rev Story I'm going to beat you down Cruise I know my place in life right now. I am a lowly Colgan Express 19hondy driver. __________________ www.alpa.org

November 4th, 2007, 17:18	#53
Seggy Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Somewhere in the Northeast Posts: 5,121	Re: Weird Non Rev Story That is just weird. __________________ www.alpa.org

November 4th, 2007, 17:22	#55
Cruise Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: SYR, ABE Posts: 2,262	Re: Weird Non Rev Story You know.....you're right. Now that I'm looking at it closer.....wtf are they doing? It's the beat down....butt bang action. __________________ LIVESTRONG

November 5th, 2007, 10:16	#63
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 40,597 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Weird Non Rev Story In retrospect, I betchya he's a 1%'er! You know when someone's actions are so absurd, you start looking for cameramen and a microphone boom because you think you're getting 'punked'! __________________ Doug Taylor http://76school.flyblog.com (old!) http://30west.flyblog.com (updated 11/28)

November 6th, 2007, 21:02	#65
greaper007 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: West Hartford, Ct Posts: 1,069	Re: Weird Non Rev Story When I lie I go for the gold. Why say that you fly for US Airways, when you fly for Colgan. I tell the chicks (and interested guys) that I'm captain on Air Force 1. Seriously though, this is exactly why I don't give passes to some people I know. For instance I'll give passes all day to one of my in-laws. However, after I've seen how his wife treats wait staff at restaurants. There's no way she's flying on my passes (thank god she thinks too highly of herself to non-rev). I received an early primer on non-reving from my mom and dad. We were told that if we acted out of line my dad would lose his job. Nothing like the fear economic retribution to keep kids in line. I still have a sort of ingrained feeling of that non-reving today, even on my own passes. __________________ <<<<<Hunter S. Thompson extends the Gonzo concept to flying.

November 7th, 2007, 02:02	#66
FlyChicaga Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 4,821	Re: Weird Non Rev Story This is why I'm glad I commute on an all-coach class carrier. The sense of entitlement of some pilots is just astounding to me. __________________ "Anyone can do the job when things are going right. In this business we play for keeps." Ernest K. Gann

November 7th, 2007, 08:16	#67
Soul Brotha' Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Random hotels of America Posts: 464	Re: Weird Non Rev Story I hate to say this, but there are some real tools at OH. The senior guys make it real hard for some of us. Some of the things I've seen while riding DL makes me embarassed at times. Of the few times that I've had to ride up front, the DL pilots let me know what they think about our senior guys. They really don't have a problem with relatively new guys. What can one do?

November 7th, 2007, 12:28	#71
Ophir Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: was Ophir, CO, now in SLC! Posts: 1,477	Re: Weird Non Rev Story WOW! __________________ Get in shape on your overnights: http://www.fitnessanywhere.com/Merch...27&AFFIL=Ophir

November 7th, 2007, 12:54	#72
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 40,597 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Weird Non Rev Story It's true though. If someone misbehaves while using one of your passes, you will have your privileges suspended. If things get a little stupid, a good dose of humility and a sprinkle of humor can generally calm the situation. Flight attendants love the Non-rev with an entitlement complex because they've usually got an airplane full of folks that have similar entitlement complexes, but are paying passengers. When the non-rev does it, now you're a clay pigeon! __________________ Doug Taylor http://76school.flyblog.com (old!) http://30west.flyblog.com (updated 11/28) Last edited by Doug Taylor; November 7th, 2007 at 13:15.

November 7th, 2007, 13:10	#73
SteveC Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: GRR Posts: 8,505	Re: Weird Non Rev Story "Pull!" __________________ . If life gives you lemons, throw 'em into a quart of vodka. ~Red Green

November 7th, 2007, 22:30	#75
Ecl!pse Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Pittsburgh, PA/Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 383	Re: Weird Non Rev Story Here is a question, though it may be silly. Does ALPA, or any pilot union for that matter, have a Professional Pilot's Code of Ethics? Everyone talks a lot about "jumpseat etiquette", or other "etiquette's", but is there a spelled out code of ethic's for pilots? Many of the other well respected professions have one, like engineering, law, medicine, etc., why not for pilots?

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