flying large aircraft like the triple 7 aka 777

AmericanJetBlue · September 30th, 2007, 21:24

a question was asked me, and i wasnt exactly sure of the answer. I always wondered, lets say a airline like Delta or American. Two of my personal favorites, of whom i wouldnt mind working for either one. If one was assigned to the triple 7, on let say Delta 55, going from Atlanta to Tokyo. One Crew of a First officer and Captain cannot fly the aircraft all the way, so how does the crew rest? Do they have some sort of crew dorm on a triple 7? As big as the 747 is, i can assume its probably in the upper deck. However, in a triple 7, where would a crew go?

Thanx in advance.

SeanD · September 30th, 2007, 21:30

Some do have rest areas above the cockpit with beds.

v1valarob · September 30th, 2007, 21:35

Relief officer or just a second first officer? If you look at some of Dougs trip pictures, you can see that they work out schedules for someone else to sit in a seat while the other goes back for a rest.

Im not sure if this is by company, or 121 rules. But the airline I used to work at, a pilot could be on duty for 14 hours, but only fly 8.

-Rob

SeanD · September 30th, 2007, 21:38

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1008034/M/

777 crew rest area. I dont think all airlines have this though.

Cptnchia · September 30th, 2007, 22:04

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Originally Posted by SeanD

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1008034/M/

777 crew rest area. I dont think all airlines have this though.

That picture is of the crew rest facility for the flight attendants, above coach. The pilot's "condo" is above the first class section. At Delta, is has two bunks, and two seats.

Cessnaflyer · September 30th, 2007, 22:29

Here is the flight crew rest area
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0913093/L/

Maximillian_Jenius · September 30th, 2007, 23:19

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Originally Posted by Cptnchia

That picture is of the crew rest facility for the flight attendants, above coach. The pilot's "condo" is above the first class section. At Delta, is has two bunks, and two seats.

Question, on the 777, if both crew rest areas are above coach and first class, how does the crew get up there?

The 777, has no stairs inside.

Screaming_Emu · September 30th, 2007, 23:21

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Originally Posted by Maximillian_Jenius

The 777, has no stairs inside.

That's what you think

Milesar · September 30th, 2007, 23:30

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BOEING
The flight-crew-rest compartment is accessed through stairs located at door 1, over what is typically the airplane's first-class section. The flight-crew-rest compartment includes two business-class seats, two roomy bunks and optional amenities, including a closet, sink or a lavatory.

Six-Bunk Attendant Rest Station
The six-bunk attendant rest station, available on the 777-200ER and 777-200LR, can be accessed from stairs located at the mid-section of the airplane

Flight-Crew-Rest Compartment

juxtapilot · October 1st, 2007, 00:14

I am curious, are the seats in the pilot rest on the 777 approved for takeoff and landing?

staplegun · October 1st, 2007, 00:41

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Originally Posted by juxtapilot

I am curious, are the seats in the pilot rest on the 777 approved for takeoff and landing?

I don't know for sure, but I don't believe they are because of ground-evacuation-time issues.

Kevin

Maximillian_Jenius · October 1st, 2007, 01:04

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Originally Posted by Milesar

Flight-Crew-Rest Compartment

Guess I was wrong!

bLizZuE · October 1st, 2007, 08:20

secret cubby holes in airplanes! AWESOME!

OldTownPilot · October 1st, 2007, 10:41

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Originally Posted by staplegun

I don't know for sure, but I don't believe they are because of ground-evacuation-time issues.

Kevin

Hmm I thought I read that they were. But I think that source was whwn the 200LR came out. So maybe that set up is different.

At CAL the 777 has cabin level bunks for crew rest, On the 767 and 757 the pilots get a row in coach blocked off to sleep in. They get a first class seat before any non-revs get them. On the 737 for Caribbean turns the rest seat is in first class.

Cptnchia · October 1st, 2007, 11:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by staplegun

I don't know for sure, but I don't believe they are because of ground-evacuation-time issues.

Kevin

Deviated on the JFK/ATL last month and the crew said it wasn't. It's not even supposed to be unlocked and used on domestic legs. The A line opened it for me during the enevitable delay in loading in JFK though. Word has it that the new IFE won't work up there due to wiring restrictions. In order to get it to work, the whole compartment needs to be pulled out to rewire it. Looks like a laptop is going to be needed going to China.

Crydix · October 1st, 2007, 11:41

Interesting Topic. Learn something new every day.

September 30th, 2007, 21:24	#1
AmericanJetBlue Newbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 7	flying large aircraft like the triple 7 aka 777 a question was asked me, and i wasnt exactly sure of the answer. I always wondered, lets say a airline like Delta or American. Two of my personal favorites, of whom i wouldnt mind working for either one. If one was assigned to the triple 7, on let say Delta 55, going from Atlanta to Tokyo. One Crew of a First officer and Captain cannot fly the aircraft all the way, so how does the crew rest? Do they have some sort of crew dorm on a triple 7? As big as the 747 is, i can assume its probably in the upper deck. However, in a triple 7, where would a crew go? Thanx in advance.

September 30th, 2007, 21:30	#2
SeanD Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: KLAS Posts: 3,261	Re: flying large aircraft like the triple 7 aka 777 Some do have rest areas above the cockpit with beds. __________________ Electricity is really just organized lightning. George Carlin

September 30th, 2007, 21:35	#3
v1valarob Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Woodbridge, VA Posts: 1,066 Blog Entries: 6	Re: flying large aircraft like the triple 7 aka 777 Relief officer or just a second first officer? If you look at some of Dougs trip pictures, you can see that they work out schedules for someone else to sit in a seat while the other goes back for a rest. Im not sure if this is by company, or 121 rules. But the airline I used to work at, a pilot could be on duty for 14 hours, but only fly 8. -Rob __________________ SF340 - SIC CFI/MEI http://robertstogsdill.flyblog.com

September 30th, 2007, 21:38	#4
SeanD Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: KLAS Posts: 3,261	Re: flying large aircraft like the triple 7 aka 777 http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1008034/M/ 777 crew rest area. I dont think all airlines have this though. __________________ Electricity is really just organized lightning. George Carlin

September 30th, 2007, 22:29	#6
Cessnaflyer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sammamish, WA Posts: 1,419	Re: flying large aircraft like the triple 7 aka 777 Here is the flight crew rest area http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0913093/L/ __________________ Chris, CFI, CFII Now I could let these dream killers kill my self-esteem or use it as the steam to power my dreams That's how you treat things, stay hungry.

October 1st, 2007, 00:14	#10
juxtapilot Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Portland Posts: 644	Re: flying large aircraft like the triple 7 aka 777 I am curious, are the seats in the pilot rest on the 777 approved for takeoff and landing? __________________ Flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. -Douglas Adams

October 1st, 2007, 08:20	#13
bLizZuE Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Vero Beach, Florida Posts: 1,151	Re: flying large aircraft like the triple 7 aka 777 secret cubby holes in airplanes! AWESOME! __________________ \| website \| CFI \| CFII \| MEI \| 141 Check Instructor \| AOPA Mentor Pilot

October 1st, 2007, 11:41	#16
Crydix Newbie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: KHFD - CFA Posts: 17	Re: flying large aircraft like the triple 7 aka 777 Interesting Topic. Learn something new every day.

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