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| Newbie Join Date: May 2007 Location: VA, NY at heart.
Posts: 29
| For any former Army RW pilots...I am trying to go back and log my flight time from flight school at Rucker, into a civilian log book. I kept a log book up till my advanced aircraft, then stopped (great idea, I know). My question, I have heard it is legal to put a one time entry into a log book, however, have not found proof in the FARs. I have a print out from flight school with all of my hours listed, but am not sure if that is something you can just drag into a civilian checkride or interview, and have accepted as a "logbook". Wouldn't look to professional either. |
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| Old Skool | Take your Army records and enter them in your logbook. As long as you keep the original records as evidence, no one should question your logbook.
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| | #3 |
| Newbie Join Date: May 2007 Location: VA, NY at heart.
Posts: 29
| Thanks for the help, thats what I was thinking as well. |
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| | #4 |
| Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 602
| Absolutely! Military records of flight time hold more credibility than most civilian logbooks. |
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| | #5 |
| Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 138
| Yes you can bring your military records as proof. Not sure in the helicopter world, but I know in the AF pilots only log actual flight time where in the civilian world you log taxi time as well. The FAA defines flight time as any time the aircraft is moving under its own power. Reason I mention this is that most military folks have more time than their records show, important if you are trying to get your ATP and are short a few hours, I did ATP licenses as an instructor. Now there is no magic formula that you can just plug in to get all that taxi time, you have to look at every flight and try to remember how long you were on the ground. |
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| Old Skool | In the hazy reaches of my memory, the military logs T/O to touchdown, not block time. That's why it is generally accepted practice to multiply military time by 1.3 to estimate block times.
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| Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sonoma, CA
Posts: 293
| I've also heard of adding about .3 per flight, which would be more appropriate for longer routes. If you're doing an 8 hour flight, logging 10.4 doesn't make much sense. |
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| | #8 |
| Junior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Graceland
Posts: 67
| Each company has a different conversion factor.. So read the fine print when applying. https://www.pilotcredentials.com/car...hp?a=questions Q: Can I use a conversion factor when determining flight time accumulated in the military? A: Yes. You may add a plus (.2) per sortie factor to your flight times. Please note that this conversion factor is applied to each sortie not to total time. |
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| | #9 |
| Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Greenbow
Posts: 447
| 95-1 says that flight time is recorded from T/O to engine shutdown....
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| Old Skool | Hey, I told you its been a long time since I dealt with conversion factors. About .2-.3 per sortie would be about right.
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| | #11 |
| Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: San Antonio TX or anywhere Uncle Sugar wants me....
Posts: 784
| We do it by TO to engine shutdown or touchdown +5 minutes, whichever is shorter.
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| | #12 |
| Junior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Graceland
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| From OPNAV 3710.7T Flight 3 a. For operational purposes, a flight is one or more aircraft proceeding on a common mission. b. For recording and reporting purposes, a flight begins when the aircraft first moves forward on its takeoff run or takes off vertically from rest at any point of support and ends after airborne flight when the aircraft is on the surface and either: (1) The engines are stopped or the aircraft has been on the surface for 5 minutes, whichever comes first (2) A change is made in the pilot in command. c. For helicopters, a flight begins when the aircraft lifts from a rest point or commences ground taxi and ends after airborne flight when the rotors are disengaged or the aircraft has been stationary for 5 minutes with rotors engaged. |
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| | #13 |
| Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Greenbow
Posts: 447
| Round to the nearest higher whole number...
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