No H.S. Diploma or G.E.D.

[Van_Hoolio]

At my XJT interview, they didn't even look at the HS diploma or college transcript until post-handshake.

I highly doubt you'll get hired here without at least a GED.

[DE727UPS]

"I know that the regional airlines don't reguire a college degree, what about some of the frieght companys?"

If you don't have the top of the ladder in mind, I wouldn't worry about a degree. There are a lot of jobs in aviation that don't require a degree. If you'd be happy with one of them, then don't worry about it. I'd say the regionals and 135 freight are both great targets for you.

[JDMcFly]

Originally Posted by MFT1Air

Define "top school?" What exactly does that mean? Stanford over Rice over Princeton?

Harvard over Michigan over Appalachian State.

Anyway, I was kidding around mostly, I don't really think the Ws would have any real detriment. I was considering going to Columbia, but I didn't really want to move/live in the city ($$$).

[MQAAord]

"Looks like it's the University of Illinois!" *thumbs up, with crooked smile*


(someone name the movie)

[ASpilot2be]

Risky Business

[MFT1Air]

Originally Posted by JDMcFly

Harvard over Michigan over Appalachian State.

Anyway, I was kidding around mostly, I don't really think the Ws would have any real detriment. I was considering going to Columbia, but I didn't really want to move/live in the city ($$$).

Phew! Thanks. High school prospects won't rule out Appalachian State so quickly next year. . .that's for certain.

[RPJ]

Originally Posted by APACHEpilot

What if you don't inspire to fly for the major airlines, I know that the regional airlines don't reguire a college degree, what about some of the frieght companys?

Apachepilot,

Just get the GED! It is not a hard test to pass and you can take it for a very cheap fee. Most adult schools also offer FREE prep classes for your benefit. You have spent all this money in your flight training so why not enhance it with acquiring the most basic education standard, HS diploma or GED.

You have to realise that 99% of pilots will have at least a GED and you will be competing with them to get a job. It is easier than ever to attain your bachelors degree as well via online classes.

Being a fully rated good pilot is only part of this game, traditional education still plays a part in staying competitive. You will also have a fall back plan with your degree when the industry goes through its cyclic nature.

Just my 2 cents,
Ryan

[APACHEpilot]

I will definitely get the G.E.D soon, i just don't have alot of time right now working two jobs as flight instructor and as aircraft servicer at a local military base. I know that it will just help in the long run as well as taking soom online college classes . Thanks for the advice !

[MusketeerMan]

Update Bump

She didn't get hired. Supposedly she had a small incident on her record and she said she didn't know how to calculate VDP. Those don't seem like job killers, so I think her abrasiveness was the real culprit. I hear if they don't like ya', you aint gettin' hired!!!

[Doug Taylor]

A couple of points.

Get the GED. I'm not even sure you can get hired in a front-line position at Macy's as a high school dropout.

Second, Musketeer, thanks for the update. You've got to at least know how to figure a VDP, that's surprising that she couldn't have at least known that lots of boards love to ask that question and that it was too much of a hassle to google it. ;(

[MusketeerMan]

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

A couple of points.

Get the GED. I'm not even sure you can get hired in a front-line position at Macy's as a high school dropout.

Second, Musketeer, thanks for the update. You've got to at least know how to figure a VDP, that's surprising that she couldn't have at least known that lots of boards love to ask that question and that it was too much of a hassle to google it. ;(

Even moreso is the fact that I sent her gouge after gouge and each gouge for XJT had VDP in the interviews...oh well...like I stated, I think it was more her than screwing that up.

[Doug Taylor]

Now it's starting to make a lot more sense now! Good move XJT!

[MFT1Air]

Originally Posted by MusketeerMan

Update Bump

She didn't get hired. Supposedly she had a small incident on her record and she said she didn't know how to calculate VDP. Those don't seem like job killers, so I think her abrasiveness was the real culprit. I hear if they don't like ya', you aint gettin' hired!!!

VDP? Cmon guys, enough of the pilot talk?

OK - thank goodness for the internet.

Calculating VDP VDP - A point along a straight-in approach at which a 3 degree slope to the runway can not be maintained resulting in a, missed approach, circle to land, or unsafe maneuver. VDP’s are for straight in approaches and are simply used for a reference. it will indicate to you that a 3 degree descent path to the runway will not be obtainable from that position without an evasive maneuver There are three ways to calculate VDP: 1. They are published on the approach plate. 2. By DME - 300ft per nautical mile (from end of the runway) Ex. Say the MDA = 600 and the runway is 1 DME from the fix VOR, LOC, NDB, ETC) Your VDP = 3 DME 600/300 = 2 DME plus the 1 DME = 3 DME 3. Take 10% HAT off your time. Ex. Say the published HAT is 800ft and the time for that approach is 5:20 Your VDP will be at 4:00 along the approach. 10% of 800 = 80 seconds, subtract that from 5:20 and you get 4:00

I've educated myself.

[jtrain609]

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

A couple of points.

Get the GED. I'm not even sure you can get hired in a front-line position at Macy's as a high school dropout.

Second, Musketeer, thanks for the update. You've got to at least know how to figure a VDP, that's surprising that she couldn't have at least known that lots of boards love to ask that question and that it was too much of a hassle to google it. ;(

What'd I tell ya boss? What'd I tell ya? The best applicants from the worst pool anybody has ever seen.

[Doug Taylor]

Good grief, if completing high school was too much of a challenge, we're certainly doomed as a society.

Does anyone know if a nice family in Chennai is looking for a housekeeper? I'm fluent in English, barely passable in basic German and do ok in French. I'll be willing to learn Hindi.

[Maximillian_Jenius]

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

Good grief, if completing high school was too much of a challenge, we're certainly doomed as a society.

Does anyone know if a nice family in Chennai is looking for a housekeeper? I'm fluent in English, barely passable in basic German and do ok in French. I'll be willing to learn Hindi.

Learn Chinese...they'll own us in a few decades. Think financially they already do!

[MQAAord]

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

I'm not even sure you can get hired in a front-line position at Macy's as a high school dropout.

I needed a college degree to get hired in that front-line job at Tiffany I had!

[Wolfy]

What will be cool is when they have computer testing for the GED. Walk, click around for an hour and walk out.
The scary thing about the GED is to pass you need to have a score above the average graduating senior and how low that score is.

[RPJ]

I have a question that I have not really gave much thought until recently. What do you guys suggest about writing my resume in regards to my GED? I am going to list UVSC and note that I have not graduated yet but should I also list the high school I attended and GED under it? In what way should I list this on my resume to look attractive as possible with my situation?


Thanks,
Ryan

[Airdale]

What the heck? I have 800TT, 350 Turbine AND a HS diploma yet they still haven't called me. Sometimes I wish I had boobs.

[scramjet]

Man oh man, no chance at all. Standards are getting lower and lower.

[RPJ]

Originally Posted by scramjet

Man oh man, no chance at all. Standards are getting lower and lower.

I did not get my GED due to lack of intelligence or motivation to complete HS. I moved from Detroit when I was 15 and the school system in Los Angeles did not accept all the credits from my old school system. My family sued LAUSD, the case was dropped and handled outside court. I had two options at that point. One was to be held back almost a full year or I get the GED and move on to community college. I was not going to be held back a year over administrative BS so I took option two.

Some people get the GED due to intelligence/motivation reasons (or lack thereof) and some people get the GED for reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with the above.

-Ryan

[Kristie]

Originally Posted by DE727UPS

"I know that the regional airlines don't reguire a college degree, what about some of the frieght companys?"

If you don't have the top of the ladder in mind, I wouldn't worry about a degree. There are a lot of jobs in aviation that don't require a degree. If you'd be happy with one of them, then don't worry about it. I'd say the regionals and 135 freight are both great targets for you.

wait...he's not talking college degree...he's talking HS or GED...I would think that any company flying major cargo or pax would absolutely require at least a GED.

[APACHEpilot]

I was just curious about what some companys require ! I know a few people that fly for major airlines without a college degree .Im just wondering how much of college do you use while your flying ? I bet you use more of your FLIGHT EXPERINCE than anything ?

[jtrain609]

Originally Posted by APACHEpilot

I was just curious about what some companys require ! I know a few people that fly for major airlines without a college degree .Im just wondering how much of college do you use while your flying ? I bet you use more of your FLIGHT EXPERINCE than anything ?

Not really. Flying professionally is 10% flying and 90% other stuff.

ANY degree helps with the other stuff.