Piper Seminole vs. Diamond Twinstar! - Page 2

JaceTheAce · August 29th, 2007, 15:34

Screw both, go with the Duchess!

meritflyer · August 29th, 2007, 16:04

The Seminole is a much better trainer hands down.

The Twin Star has FADEC and teaches a multi engine pilot nothing about factors that will affect the performance of a twin engine aircraft with an engine inop.

JMHO.

bdhill1979 · August 29th, 2007, 17:15

Twin Star purchase price is now over $700,000, how many Seminoles can you buy for that?

WAFlyBoy · August 29th, 2007, 17:21

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Originally Posted by bdhill1979

Twin Star purchase price is now over $700,000, how many Seminoles can you buy for that?

About 1.7 new ones I believe.

bdhill1979 · August 29th, 2007, 17:24

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Originally Posted by WAFlyBoy

About 1.7 new ones I believe.

Buy one Seminole and buy 47,000 gallons of fuel ($5 per gallon)

WAFlyBoy · August 29th, 2007, 18:27

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Originally Posted by jtrain609

No no no, having a critial engine is GOOD!!!

Jeeze, these kids don't want to work for their paycheck anymore! Learn how to fly in something THAT WILL TEACH YOU HOW TO FLY, and NOT in something that will do everything for you.

Who needs to learn how to fly???? What we need right now is more pilots and fewer aviators! What the CRJ/ERJ doesn't do itself the captain will take care of, right?!?!

Extreme

DE727UPS · August 30th, 2007, 00:55

"If you're getting your CMEL, PMEL or MEI, who cares if it's certified in ice?"

My 57 Apache isn't certified for ice, but it's not uncertified for moderate ice or less, either. It's so old they didn't even mention ice in the POH, though, an AD precludes severe ice. Sounds good to me.

"Twin Star purchase price is now over $700,000, how many Seminoles can you buy for that?"

You could buy 102 Apache's. And burn car gas in them. Don't think you could get the burn back to 9 gph, though, and keep her in the air.

X-Forces · August 30th, 2007, 02:33

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Originally Posted by kellwolf

I'd say Diamond hit it on the head for a TIME BUILDING aircraft, not necessarily a trainer. If you're getting your CMEL, PMEL or MEI, who cares if it's certified in ice? You're gonna be doing that stuff in VMC anyway. Also, I don't think you'll need that service ceiling (unless MAYBE you're in the desert or mountains) doing those manuevers. I'd like to have that stuff if I'm flying cross country, but it's not necessary when training. As an instructor, I'd prefer a non-critical engine in an a/c when I'm training someone that hasn't had any ME experience. After they've got some experience dealing with a non-crit engine, then they can move up. It's all about steps in this industry. They'll still find ways to try to kill you even without a critical engine.

That being said, I've never actually flown the DA-42. I'm just going off of design features as to why I prefer the Seminole as a trainer. As a cross country airplane flying on trips, the DA-42 wins.

Oh, single engine performance has been first and foremost on my mind several times over the last couple of months.

X-Forces · August 30th, 2007, 02:36

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Originally Posted by WAFlyBoy

About 1.7 new ones I believe.

You're shopping at the wrong stores!

WAFlyBoy · August 30th, 2007, 02:56

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Originally Posted by X-Forces

You're shopping at the wrong stores!

What are you confused about? My over-estimate? Piper lists the price of a new Seminole at $510,000.

August 29th, 2007, 15:34	#26
JaceTheAce Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego Posts: 7,430	Re: Piper Seminole vs. Diamond Twinstar! Screw both, go with the Duchess! __________________ "Time spent flying is not deducted from one's lifespan." Free The Grapes!

August 29th, 2007, 16:04	#27
meritflyer Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Winchestertonfieldville Posts: 6,738	Re: Piper Seminole vs. Diamond Twinstar! The Seminole is a much better trainer hands down. The Twin Star has FADEC and teaches a multi engine pilot nothing about factors that will affect the performance of a twin engine aircraft with an engine inop. JMHO. __________________ The simplest answer tends to be correct.

August 29th, 2007, 17:15	#28
bdhill1979 Old Skool Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: U77 Posts: 2,443	Re: Piper Seminole vs. Diamond Twinstar! Twin Star purchase price is now over $700,000, how many Seminoles can you buy for that? __________________ Commercial Pilot, IR Gold Seal CFI, CFII TT: 950ish Part 91 Company pilot 4 year Degree Will fish for pay

August 30th, 2007, 00:55	#32
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,546	Re: Piper Seminole vs. Diamond Twinstar! "If you're getting your CMEL, PMEL or MEI, who cares if it's certified in ice?" My 57 Apache isn't certified for ice, but it's not uncertified for moderate ice or less, either. It's so old they didn't even mention ice in the POH, though, an AD precludes severe ice. Sounds good to me. "Twin Star purchase price is now over $700,000, how many Seminoles can you buy for that?" You could buy 102 Apache's. And burn car gas in them. Don't think you could get the burn back to 9 gph, though, and keep her in the air. __________________ Click here to see how I became a UPS pilot http://www.jetcareers.com/content/view/65/132/

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