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Old August 27th, 2007, 13:19   #1
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We sold the Apache last week.

We're now without an aircraft so all my flying will be at work. Kind of an odd feeling as I've pretty much had access to a personal aircraft from just after my private certificate, or almost six years.

In a couple years (after a house, etc.) I'll talk my brother/friend(s) into partnering on an a 182 or some single engine, straight leg aircraft. Having a personal aircraft is, yes, expensive but so very, very handy.

Anyway just kind of sad to see the end of an 'era' so to speak.

But, it has served it's purpose and of the biggest mistakes anyone can make is getting too attached to an aircraft.

If anyone is conisdering buying an aircraft to obtain ratings/hours I completely endorse the idea. However, DO YOUR HOMEWORK. Buy what you can afford, maintain it well and then after you're through with it, sell it.

And, that, is pretty much the key when buying a personal aircraft: buy it with a single purpose in mind. Use the aircraft towards that purpose. If the purpose/mission changes, sell the aircraft and buy a different aircraft that is suitable for the new purpose.
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Old August 27th, 2007, 13:22   #2
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Maybe all the JC PHX posse can get together and buy something, eh? Pimp it out with a JC logo, online scheduling, do a little flight instructiooo...

Whoah. Wait a sec...
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Old August 27th, 2007, 13:27   #3
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Well my CFI is still current ...


err wait well at least that's what I heard from the last Check Airman I flew with ...
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DA-42 ya think? 1/10th shares, form a S-Corp, yadda yadda yadda?
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Oh, you guys would love the 42.
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Old August 27th, 2007, 13:35   #6
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But, it has served it's purpose and of the biggest mistakes anyone can make is getting too attached to an aircraft.
Same can be said for dogs, cats, wives, cars etc. But how could you not love the Apache? Just went back and looked at some of my comments in my logbook about it. What a great airplane.
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A Twin Star could be a good hook ... but ya know a nice 172 with a basic sixpack and a tricked out moving map GPS setup would be a good start too.

Glass is great but I still believe in learning the basics and teaching people to be adaptable. In other words, learn to fly the aircraft you're actually flying then learn to fly the next one when you get to it.

Old fashioned? Maybe. But it seems to work. Hell, it works(ed) for me.
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Same can be said for dogs, cats, wives, cars etc. But how could you not love the Apache? Just went back and looked at some of my comments in my logbook about it. What a great airplane.

Ours was/is such a nice bird too. It only had 2600TT on it when we bought it. They only built something like 40 more after ours. It was a "Super Custom" so it had the third window, fifth seat, dual generators, dual vac pumps, etc. I got my multi rating (at 42 hours TT) in it, did my initial Instrument Rating in it, my initial Commercial Rating and initial CFI in it. I put just over 500 hours on it flying it all over the state and literally across the country as did several 2,600 mile round-trip flights in it.

I truly learned to fly in that airplane.

It was a GREAT airplane and I will truly miss it.

But that being said, for the type of pleasure flying we (my father, brother and I) will/would do now, it's just too much aircraft. Hence it's now no longer ours.

I think I put a total of 16 hours on it over the last two years ... that's just murder on an aircraft.
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Old August 27th, 2007, 14:33   #9
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I love my Apache. 58 model, stock,except for a dorsal fin. Full IFR with Approach certified GPS, with a Argus moving map. Hey 602,where did your plane go? FLY SAFE T.C.
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Maybe all the JC PHX posse can get together and buy something, eh? Pimp it out with a JC logo, online scheduling, do a little flight instructiooo...

Whoah. Wait a sec...

Do I see a JC flying club in the works?
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Old August 27th, 2007, 22:10   #11
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How about an SR20 for initial instruction??? Its ALL GLASS, why learn the old skool way, when glass is the future!
I know one that could be made available
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Hmm, I'm thinking Cirrus G3, Columbia 400, or Mooney Acclaim. All faster, better range, and less maintenance than most light twins.

Better yet, J-3 baby!!
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I'm hoping to set up a timebuilding program with my PA23. We'll see how it goes. It's undergoing an annual and they have found "a few things". Even if it's a 5K annual, though, I could easily make that up by flying with guys looking for multi time.

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Maybe all the JC PHX posse can get together and buy something, eh? Pimp it out with a JC logo, online scheduling, do a little flight instructiooo...

Whoah. Wait a sec...
The Phoenix JetCareers Flying Club. N767JC could be the first reg.

A friend of mine works for US and I guess a few of the pilots there started a flying club. He is wrapping up his PPL with one of the airbus captains.

http://www.flyingclub.org/

I think when I get done with my ratings and I am back to work I may look into picking up a basic 172 and using it do some freelance instruction.
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Old August 28th, 2007, 03:03   #16
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I always thought Doug should open a JC flight school. If he had the capital to start a school like ATP was before they turned into pan-am I think the other schools would just close up shop.
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Do I see a JC flying club in the works?
We're building a house, so....... ya'll can do x/c's down to my new crib which is literally minutes from KFTW and KAFW.
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We're building a house, so....... ya'll can do x/c's down to my new crib which is literally minutes from KFTW and KAFW.
No ####? Awesome! What town are you building in?
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DA-42 ya think? 1/10th shares, form a S-Corp, yadda yadda yadda?
The 42 is bloody expensive and they break constantly. We just got ours back from the factory after a landing gear "defect" back in april.


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Hmm, interesting!

One of the delivery pilots seems to speak highly of it!
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Hmm, interesting!

One of the delivery pilots seems to speak highly of it!
Let him keep the plane for a few months.

We operate a fleet of Diamonds; note that I am not instructing right now like my schedule says I should be.
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Hmm a flying club. Sounds good to me
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What we ought to do is form an exploratory committee for those that are interested that live in the PRC/PHX/TUS area that would benefit from the idea.

Perhaps debate aircraft types, base location, whether we're going to use it for time building, instruction or just leisure rental, etc.
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I'm hoping to set up a timebuilding program with my PA23. We'll see how it goes. It's undergoing an annual and they have found "a few things". Even if it's a 5K annual, though, I could easily make that up by flying with guys looking for multi time.

Long live the flying Potato....
I am REALLY interested if that could be set up!
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