Speaking of jumpseating stuff... - Page 2

flyguy · June 22nd, 2007, 16:19

As others have said, if I requested a jumpseat and just happen to get a seat in the back, I will always check in with the crew. If I'm listed as non-rev and get a boarding pass with an assigned seat, I'm no different than any other standby pasenger, so I'll just take my seat.

pilot602 · June 22nd, 2007, 20:26

Ah but here's the twist.

A lot of times these gate agents don't put you in the system as a J/S but as a non-rev. Even when I'm "jumping" on my own airline I have trouble knowing how exactly they got me on the aircraft. 99% of the time I stop in and say hi, thanks, bs, etc. On very, very rare occasions, however, sometimes I've headed to the back without saying anything as it seemed the most prudent (only when holding a boarding pass with assigned seat). And if I check in up front I always say thanks on the way out (something a lot of J/S'ers, I notice, don't do).

I commute so I always jumpseat to get to and from work and even I have trouble following the "procedures" some of these airlines utilize which is why I always (almost) just stop in and say hi/ask regardless of what the gate tells me.

But case in point, I jumped on my own airline a few months back (I usually don't jump my own carrier as an offline offers direct flights between base and home) and a month or so later it showed up in my travel info as "non-rev" tickets. Granted I wasn't charged anything but J/S and non-rev are two different things. Argh.

sopdan · June 23rd, 2007, 23:13

Did my first J/S today on 9E, talked to the crew before we left (had to get the CA to sign the form, but I would've done it anyways). Talked to the FA a bit during the flight (there were a whole 7 pax on the flight), and then thanked the CA again when getting off the plane.

Oh, and I also non-rev'd earlier in the day, but didn't check in with the crew...

flyguy · June 24th, 2007, 13:55

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Originally Posted by sopdan

Did my first J/S today on 9E, talked to the crew before we left (had to get the CA to sign the form, but I would've done it anyways). Talked to the FA a bit during the flight (there were a whole 7 pax on the flight), and then thanked the CA again when getting off the plane.

Oh, and I also non-rev'd earlier in the day, but didn't check in with the crew...

Dang, 7 pax! And they had an open seat in the back for you?

A few months ago on my way out to my interview with SkyWest, I went from MOD to LAX on an EMB 120. I was worried I might not get a seat when I realized there were 3 other pax waiting to go to LA. That seems ridiculous to me. A crew of 3 to fly 4 pax, one of which is non-rev. Sombody had to have lost money on that flight.

calcapt · June 24th, 2007, 14:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyDean

We're non-CASS, but I always check in up front as a jumpseater... especially in uniform.

Umm... call me crazy, but I thought you couldn't drink as an armed FFDO?!

How do you think I get free drinks? Just pull out the big 40 cal and say "Bring the booze and keep it coming - and toss me a headset too."

Actually, if I were an FFDO, I would not travel (commute) armed. I would likely have a nice safe place in Houston to store it.

calcapt · June 24th, 2007, 14:51

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Originally Posted by CapnJim

I think it's an H&K...... but I may be wrong.

There are some FFDO's with "I'm a big man cowboy with a gun now!" syndrome, but they are in the vast minority. Almost all that I've flown with are conscientious, professional, and vigilant.

I hope that the issued holster is not mandatory.

You're not, I agree and it's not.

Doug Taylor · June 24th, 2007, 14:52

If I'm on a non-rev pass, I don't. But if I'm "jumpseating" even with a seat assignment in back, it's absolutely required.

BUT! Don't confuse a uniform with a jumpseater. I non-revved to PHX out of SLC one day on a connection carrier and the captain had the flight attendant bring me to the cockpit to lecture me about checking in when I'm jumpseating.

"Do you want all of us S3B's to come to the cockpit sir? There's several others..."

Doh! We actually pushed back a little late, but he sure told that Southernjets guy somefin'!

dakovich · June 24th, 2007, 17:31

i always try and show my face, just seems like a common courtesy. also, doesn't hurt on the networking front to make a good impression and meet new people. when you ride the same carrier all the time on the same route you're bound to get to know some of the crewmembers. when its time to put those apps in it doesn't hurt to have made some good relationships.

Seggy · June 24th, 2007, 18:06

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Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

I non-revved to PHX out of SLC one day on a connection carrier and the captain had the flight attendant bring me to the cockpit to lecture me about checking in when I'm jumpseating.

What a dweeb that Captain must have been.

Don't ASSUME Captain Cubscout!

KLB · June 24th, 2007, 18:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

If I'm on a non-rev pass, I don't. But if I'm "jumpseating" even with a seat assignment in back, it's absolutely required.

BUT! Don't confuse a uniform with a jumpseater. I non-revved to PHX out of SLC one day on a connection carrier and the captain had the flight attendant bring me to the cockpit to lecture me about checking in when I'm jumpseating.

"Do you want all of us S3B's to come to the cockpit sir? There's several others..."

Doh! We actually pushed back a little late, but he sure told that Southernjets guy somefin'!

He had to show you how large and in charge he was.

Doug Taylor · June 24th, 2007, 18:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by KLB

He had to show you how large and in charge he was.

Yup! I got served!

Mavmb · June 24th, 2007, 18:57

I was always told non revenue standby, you don't have to check in. Jumpseating, you should always introduce yourself in case you end up in the flight deck.

Fly4Pay · June 24th, 2007, 19:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seggy

When I am jumpseating I like to fart a lot in the cockpit.

Adding a new entry to my JS blacklist....

SkyCougar · June 24th, 2007, 19:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seggy

When I am jumpseating I like to fart a lot in the cockpit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fly4Pay

Adding a new entry to my JS blacklist....

Boys will be Boys.

Although I think it would be a hoot if a really hot female pilot was sitting in the jumpseat and let one rip on you boys.

Chris_Ford · June 24th, 2007, 21:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyCougar

Boys will be Boys.

Although I think it would be a hoot if a really hot female pilot was sitting in the jumpseat and let one rip on you boys.

She'd have to be a mom though since girls don't fart until they're moms. And don't get me started on pooping.

EDUC8-or · June 25th, 2007, 08:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by nwa_contrails

I had to list on GoJets (unfortunately, last flight of the day) trying to get home one time, going to IAD...I was listed as a non-rev, had a seat in the back, and in uniform. Like I always do, I went up front just to check in-say hi, let them know I'm back there. Esp. if I'm in uniform.

I introduce myself to the captain, my name, who I'm with, etc etc, and then he starts to give me a hard time about how I don't need to check in with him since I have a seat in the back, blah blah blah. I couldn't believe it, he started criticizing me for, what I thought, was doing the right thing! I just say "ok" and turn to walk out. As I'm walking out, I hear him start to talk to the FO about how he never checks in when he's got a seat in the back...I just walked away at that point and laughed...no wonder everyone hates these guys...

The reason he never checks in is because he knows there's a strong chance he will be denied the JS.

SkyCougar · June 25th, 2007, 09:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris_Ford

She'd have to be a mom though since girls don't fart until they're moms. And don't get me started on pooping.

What, they don't poop until they're moms either? You must be running around with some gals that are really full of crap then!

Bumblebee · June 25th, 2007, 12:42

poot?

View Poll Results: Do you check in up front when flying non-rev? (seat in back)
Yes	28	59.57%
No	15	31.91%
Why should I say hello?	4	8.51%
Voters: 47. You may not vote on this poll

June 22nd, 2007, 16:19	#26
flyguy Old Skool Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 2,094	Re: Speaking of jumpseating stuff... As others have said, if I requested a jumpseat and just happen to get a seat in the back, I will always check in with the crew. If I'm listed as non-rev and get a boarding pass with an assigned seat, I'm no different than any other standby pasenger, so I'll just take my seat. __________________ "Roads?...Where we're going we don't need roads."

June 22nd, 2007, 20:26	#27
pilot602 Old Skool Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: who haa Posts: 3,750	Re: Speaking of jumpseating stuff... Ah but here's the twist. A lot of times these gate agents don't put you in the system as a J/S but as a non-rev. Even when I'm "jumping" on my own airline I have trouble knowing how exactly they got me on the aircraft. 99% of the time I stop in and say hi, thanks, bs, etc. On very, very rare occasions, however, sometimes I've headed to the back without saying anything as it seemed the most prudent (only when holding a boarding pass with assigned seat). And if I check in up front I always say thanks on the way out (something a lot of J/S'ers, I notice, don't do). I commute so I always jumpseat to get to and from work and even I have trouble following the "procedures" some of these airlines utilize which is why I always (almost) just stop in and say hi/ask regardless of what the gate tells me. But case in point, I jumped on my own airline a few months back (I usually don't jump my own carrier as an offline offers direct flights between base and home) and a month or so later it showed up in my travel info as "non-rev" tickets. Granted I wasn't charged anything but J/S and non-rev are two different things. Argh. __________________ .......................... p i l o t 6 0 2 insert something witty, here

June 23rd, 2007, 23:13	#28
sopdan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 637	Re: Speaking of jumpseating stuff... Did my first J/S today on 9E, talked to the crew before we left (had to get the CA to sign the form, but I would've done it anyways). Talked to the FA a bit during the flight (there were a whole 7 pax on the flight), and then thanked the CA again when getting off the plane. Oh, and I also non-rev'd earlier in the day, but didn't check in with the crew...

June 24th, 2007, 14:52	#32
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 41,096 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Speaking of jumpseating stuff... If I'm on a non-rev pass, I don't. But if I'm "jumpseating" even with a seat assignment in back, it's absolutely required. BUT! Don't confuse a uniform with a jumpseater. I non-revved to PHX out of SLC one day on a connection carrier and the captain had the flight attendant bring me to the cockpit to lecture me about checking in when I'm jumpseating. "Do you want all of us S3B's to come to the cockpit sir? There's several others..." Doh! We actually pushed back a little late, but he sure told that Southernjets guy somefin'! __________________ Doug Taylor http://76school.flyblog.com (old!) http://30west.flyblog.com (updated 11/28)

June 24th, 2007, 17:31	#33
dakovich Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,032	Re: Speaking of jumpseating stuff... i always try and show my face, just seems like a common courtesy. also, doesn't hurt on the networking front to make a good impression and meet new people. when you ride the same carrier all the time on the same route you're bound to get to know some of the crewmembers. when its time to put those apps in it doesn't hurt to have made some good relationships.

June 24th, 2007, 18:57	#37
Mavmb Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,169	Re: Speaking of jumpseating stuff... I was always told non revenue standby, you don't have to check in. Jumpseating, you should always introduce yourself in case you end up in the flight deck. __________________ My accomplishments: 30,000 hours logged, at yo momma's house!

June 25th, 2007, 12:42	#43
Bumblebee Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: back to the salt mines . . . Posts: 2,111	Re: Speaking of jumpseating stuff... poot? __________________ Shoot for the moon . . . if you miss, you'll be among the stars! You may refer to me as Commodore . . .

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