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Old June 13th, 2007, 14:27   #1
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Default Letting in Mexican & Canadian Airlines???

Ok this is just bad on so many levels....



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National borders erased for airlines in new plan
Aeromexico could get approval to fly Los Angeles-Toronto route

Posted: June 13, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern




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A new plan being discussed among officials from the United States, Mexico and Canada essentially would erase national borders in North America for air carriers, perhaps giving Aeromexico a pass to run a Los Angeles-Toronto route or Air Canada to compete on the New York-Paris connection, according to WND columnist Jerome Corsi.
He reported on a meeting held in Tucson, Ariz., involving U.S. Secretary of Transportation Mary Peters and her Mexican and Canadian counterparts. She's already under fire, as WND has reported, for continuing work on a program that could start as early as July 15 to give Mexican truckers a virtual free pass to travel on United States roads.



The meeting in Tucson, called the North American Transportation Trilateral, made it clear U.S. air transportation facilities also are being reviewed in light of proposed traffic from foreign carriers that also are based in North America, Corsi's report noted.
Peters met with Mexico's Secretary of Commerce and Transportation Luis Téllez and Canada's Minister of Transport, Infrastructure and Communications Lawrence Cannon to define under the Security and Prosperity Partnership a North American transportation system that will meet the continental needs of "free trade" agreements including NAFTA and the World Trade Organization, he reported.
Peters noted that existing agreements with Mexico and with Canada already work to lift restrictions on continental travel to provide for "free and open trans-border air travel."
But the next step, a North American Open Skies agreement, would virtually eliminate those national boundaries, as far as air carriers are concerned, Corsi reported.
The plan that was revealed shows over the next 10 years, "Air Canada could be competing with U.S. carriers on the New York-Paris route and Aeromexico might be launching flights between Los Angeles and Toronto."
Canada's government also noted that it is committed to "the future of our shared transportation interests in an increasingly globalized world."
The vision for a North American transportation system suited for world trade, Corsi reported, was articulated in the May 2005 Council on Foreign Relations report entitled, "Building of a North American Community." That is to "establish a seamless North American market for trade," including "open skies and open highways."


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Old June 13th, 2007, 14:32   #2
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Well NAFTA worked out so well for us......
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The free pass for Mexican trucks has been a disaster - their trucks are unsafe, often too heavy, and their drivers aren't trained to the same standards as in the U.S. My dad's a trucker down in Texas and he says it's only a matter of time before one hits a mini-van and people wise up.
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Vote accordingly!

People think relaxing cabotage laws means white glove service by Singapore airlines from LAX to DEN, but they're going to be surprised when it's a Tupolev 154 flown with a Chechen crew of 23 year olds.
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People think relaxing cabotage laws means white glove service by Singapore airlines from LAX to DEN, but they're going to be surprised when it's a Tupolev 154 flown with a Chechen crew of 23 year olds.
Tupolev make a mean aircraft.
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People think relaxing cabotage laws means white glove service by Singapore airlines from LAX to DEN, but they're going to be surprised when it's a Tupolev 154 flown with a Chechen crew of 23 year olds.
I dont even think its about making stupid decisions in the course of trying to improve something anymore. In recent years its becoming more about pushing personal agendas. Thats the worst part of it.
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People think relaxing cabotage laws means white glove service by Singapore airlines from LAX to DEN, but they're going to be surprised when it's a Tupolev 154 flown with a Chechen crew of 23 year olds.
Yeah, no body I know would even buy a ticket.. Gawd... a Tupolev flwon by 23 year olds in our skys scares the ouf of me.. ..
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Hmm, unless I missed something, there was NOTHING described in that article that fits the definition of "cabatoge". It was all 7th Freedom stuff. You do NOT want to fight that, as U.S. carriers would lose similar markets. When I pick up stuff in NRT and carry it to HKG, that is 7th Freedom. When I pick up stuff in CDG and carry it to BOM, that is also 7th Freedom. All the legacies make a lot of money on this stuff, and International is where the money is at.
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Hmm, unless I missed something, there was NOTHING described in that article that fits the definition of "cabatoge". It was all 7th Freedom stuff. You do NOT want to fight that, as U.S. carriers would lose similar markets. When I pick up stuff in NRT and carry it to HKG, that is 7th Freedom. When I pick up stuff in CDG and carry it to BOM, that is also 7th Freedom. All the legacies make a lot of money on this stuff, and International is where the money is at.
Excellent points. Corsi is not to be trusted on this subject imho. As the article pointed out American carriers are more interested in Mexico access than the other way around.
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