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Old May 27th, 2007, 01:54   #1
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Default How do you log an off-airport landing?

....hypothetically....

I'm guessing helo guys would know.
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Old May 27th, 2007, 01:58   #2
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....hypothetically....

I'm guessing helo guys would know.
Just like the others.....


You put it in your logbook..... :d


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Default Re: How do you log an off-airport landing?

I must consult with my lawyers.

But seriously...would you put in lat/long? A descriptive name? The nearest airport?
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....hypothetically....

I'm guessing helo guys would know.
I hope you're hypothetically ok, Slush!
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Default Re: How do you log an off-airport landing?

Bush pilots and sea plane pilots sometimes make off airport landings.
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Old May 27th, 2007, 02:04   #6
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I hope you're hypothetically ok, Slush!
I'm hypothetically home safe. I'm also hypothetically tired, sunburnt, and slightly dehydrated, such as one would be when spending the day on a dry lake bed....hypothetically
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Bush pilots and sea plane pilots sometimes make off airport landings.
Sometimes.
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I must consult with my lawyers.

But seriously...would you put in lat/long? A descriptive name? The nearest airport?

I believe we have a member from the SLC crew who had a for real off-airport landing not all too long ago. Maybe he could answer how he logged it?
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What's that? it's all "to scale" and stuff. Kinda scary!

So lemme guess. You landed off-airport. Picked up someone at the prison just east of the airport, re-launched AND trying to log the flight time? Geez! This time building schemes have gone a little nuts, wouldn't you say?
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Default Re: How do you log an off-airport landing?

Just thinking to myself, what would hypothetically cause an off-airport landing? engine, fuel, fire, etc....

And after landing, how does one hypothetically get said hypothetical airplane back to where it belongs.


...gliders, parachutes, and extensive aerobatic activity.....talk about keeping your eyes open.
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What's that? it's all "to scale" and stuff. Kinda scary!

So lemme guess. You landed off-airport. Picked up someone at the prison just east of the airport, re-launched AND trying to log the flight time? Geez! This time building schemes have gone a little nuts, wouldn't you say?
haha...ha

Me need log time...mucho time-o
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What's that? it's all "to scale" and stuff. Kinda scary!

So lemme guess. You landed off-airport. Picked up someone at the prison just east of the airport, re-launched AND trying to log the flight time? Geez! This time building schemes have gone a little nuts, wouldn't you say?
Would you believe the guy escaping from the prison wanted ME to pay HIM????
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Just thinking to myself, what would hypothetically cause an off-airport landing? engine, fuel, fire, etc....
...intent.

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And after landing, how does one hypothetically get said hypothetical airplane back to where it belongs.
Take off.


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...gliders, parachutes, and extensive aerobatic activity.....talk about keeping your eyes open.
I saw a helicopter and some paragliders being towed by trucks. Oh, and the handful of dirtbikes and ATV's that come out every weekend.
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Would you believe the guy escaping from the prison wanted ME to pay HIM????
pilots'll do damned near anything for loggable time in order to qualify for a job these days!
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Old May 27th, 2007, 03:13   #16
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Just thinking to myself, what would hypothetically cause an off-airport landing? ........
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...intent.


.....
Touche!
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Default Re: How do you log an off-airport landing?

Why is this such a strange question? Just because it's an "off airport" landing doesn't mean he crashed. There have already been numerous situations listed that would lead a pilot to land at other than a paved, public use airport. Bush pilots and float pilots are the first who come to mind, but there are plenty of others. Where is the reg that says planes can't be operated off of any piece of property without an official FAA identifier? There is none.

Anyhow, I'd log it with a very brief, descriptive name. I have a friend who used to land on a dirt road in front of his grandparents' house in central California. He'd log something like "KBFL - Grandpa's house - KBFL" in his logbook.

Supposing somebody were to land on the dry lake bed Jean Lake in the sectional you posted a clip from, I would say they should log it as "KABC - Jean dry lake - KABC"

BTW, I hear landing on dry lake beds is pretty fun. The same buddy of mine who would fly in to his grandparent's house on a dirt road also took his C150 in to some dry lake beds. He said one time he used up like, 5,000 feet of lake bed and took off at 1700 rpm just to see what it would handle like.
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Default Re: How do you log an off-airport landing?

jrh, thank you.

But I really want to hear the =whole= hypothetical story!
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....hypothetically....

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I'm hypothetically home safe. I'm also hypothetically tired, sunburnt, and slightly dehydrated, such as one would be when spending the day on a dry lake bed....hypothetically
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Why is this such a strange question? Just because it's an "off airport" landing doesn't mean he crashed. There have already been numerous situations listed that would lead a pilot to land at other than a paved, public use airport. Bush pilots and float pilots are the first who come to mind, but there are plenty of others. ......
Strange question? Hypothetically, yes. Nobody said he crashed. One can have engine trouble and land without crashing. As for the bush/sea pilots...I don't know of any bush fields in the desert area and as far as I know Mark is neither a bush pilot nor has a sea-plane rating. Also, if one was planning on an off-airport landing in the desert area don't you think one would have hypothetically brought water and sun-screen.

anywho, he is here and posting so whatever hypothetically happened, all is well.
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Strange question? Hypothetically, yes. Nobody said he crashed. One can have engine trouble and land without crashing. As for the bush/sea pilots...I don't know of any bush fields in the desert area and as far as I know Mark is neither a bush pilot nor has a sea-plane rating. Also, if one was planning on an off-airport landing in the desert area don't you think one would have hypothetically brought water and sun-screen.

anywho, he is here and posting so whatever hypothetically happened, all is well.
Haha, fair enough.

I suppose I picked up on it a little faster because of my buddy who used to tell me stories of the good times he had on dry lake beds in California.

I'm guessing Slushie landed on Jean Lake, hung out with all the other motorheads who play with their machines at the lake on the weekends (dirt bikes, ATVs, planes, etc.), then took off and headed home.

I interpretted his "tired, sunburnt, and slightly dehydrated" comment to mean he had a good time outside all day. The same could be used to describe me after a full day at Oshkosh!

So what's the deal, Slushie? How close am I?
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Default Re: How do you log an off-airport landing?

and to add to the confusion:

A pic from one of his flights
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Since jrh mentioned me I'll join in the discussion. The way I logged my landings was by writing in the name of the dry lake bed, ie El Mirage Dry Lake near Southern California Logistics airport.

Just use common sense and describe where you landed. When I was landing behind my house I would just write "home" in my logbook. I have a few flights that follow this format "Home - DLO - WVI - DLO - Home." Now thinking about it I should have named my dirt road something cool sounding like "Supreme Ultimate International Gateway to the World Airport."

What came first the airplane or the airport?

jrh, last week one of my trips was into PALJ with a hangar in the back of the plane. It was a complete pain to unload but the departure with an empty plane out of there was amazing.
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I used to land my 150 on the dry lake south of Boulder City. It ain't no thing.

When I flew seaplanes, I'd say Long Lake-Banks Lake-Long Lake.
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I used to land my 150 on the dry lake south of Boulder City. It ain't no thing.
That's Eldorado D.L.B. the only problem with that one is that biiig power lines cross it a couple times. We used that all the time for engine out practice for private training out of 61B.
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Anyways, I guess I got my answer.
VGT - Jean D.L. - VGT

We went out there with 2 planes and had some fun. Flew over once to make sure I had a good path to land and just did it. Coolest thing about this sort of place is that you never have to land with a crosswind. :P
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