laughable "be a pilot" ad

[cointyro]

Thought I'd share; I got this as a spam e-mail and thought you guys might get a kick out of it.

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Have you ever dreamed about being a pilot? Are you looking for a career change into an exciting and fulfilling occupation? Have you thought of a career as a commercial pilot? Stop dreaming and begin your new life with {name deleted} Academy’s Airline Career Pilot Program! Contrary to popular belief, the regional airlines are growing and hiring new pilots every day. Why not become one of them?

{name deleted} is an airline-training center designed to take students from little or no experience to an Airline Job in as little as 14 months. Guaranteed Airline Interviews await all graduates. Financial Aid and College Programs are also available. There is no college required for Airline placement. Fly in brand new piper aircraft equipped with the latest in training technology. Brand new simulators are used to maximize your learning experience. {name deleted} is the new “launch customer” for the Canadair Regional Jet 700 Simulator.

{name deleted} Academy is proud to be one of the fastest growing flight schools in the country. {name deleted} has over doubled in size over the past two years. {name deleted} prides them selves with the highest in quality training. This includes, small classrooms, individual training, guaranteed schedule to meet your needs, airline pilots on staff, and the guaranteed interview that each of our graduates receive! {name deleted}’s four-phase program will get you the requirements and flight time you need to succeed in your new airline career!

{name deleted} Academy has some of the lowest entry requirements for their airline partners. Upon completion of the program, you will have 700 hours total time logged with 100 hours of multi-engine time and a guaranteed interview. {name deleted}’s price structure is very competitive and will work with you on a payment plan that fits your budget. They have many successful graduates in the airline industry.

{name deleted} is located in the sunny Daytona Beach area. Only 15minutes from Daytona Beach and 35 minutes from Orlando makes it an ideal area for year round training in a warm, comfortable environment. {{had to make a comment here--- Orlando is a comfortable environment HA HA HA LOL HA HA *choke* *choke* HA ARH ah ah ... good one}}.

Why wait? Launch your new career as an airline pilot now! Let {name deleted} Academy’s qualified staff show you how!

[Doug Taylor]

Oh, you've got to PM me and tell me who that is!

[cointyro]

Done. PM'd just a moment ago.

[EatSleepFly]

hehe...having spent some time down in that area, I think I've seen that before. What a crock...thanks for the laugh!

[E_Dawg]

Awww c'mon can't we all see it???

[E_Dawg]

Wait.... it's in my email too... nevermind

[Rodelu]

...Just "GOOGLE" the first line.....

[tonyw]

I don't think you should keep under wraps who sent this spam. I think it is important for anyone considering going to an aviation institute to know who uses underhanded tactics such as spam emails to get people to sign up.

[MissedApproach]

It may or may not be this school.
Mostly may.

I like the spelling error on the main page. Yes I would like to receive a "scolarship."

[stuckingfk]

Then I'll say it.

This is what came up from google. Same exact email that cointryo received.

Best Aviation Schools

It is The Regional Airline Academy in Deland, Florida.

RAA

[Parabellum]

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There is no college required for Airline placement.

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Well this should tell you what kind of people they're targeting with their marketing tactics at least.

Thanks Doug. If it weren't for this site, there would probably be a higher number of people falling for traps like this.

[DE727UPS]

Do you guys really think RAA's advertising is so bad? I mean, at what point do you draw the line between what is acceptable and what isn't? I see Doug has accepted FSA's banner advertising? What's the difference between them and RAA? They both try to make airline F/O's out of 700 total time and 100 hour multi time pilots.

I draw the line at Gulfstream and PFT...anything that lowers the bar in the industry.

What is it about RAA's spam that really bothers you?

[Mr_Creepy]

It looks exactly like every ad I have seen for every academy, from Communist Air (excuse me, now Delta Creations), Humpty Diddle, Fleece Safety and every other Airline Ripoff Academy

I apologize for my feeble attempt at humor. Surely the minds on this board, if properly focused, could come up with better names.

[EatSleepFly]

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I see Doug has accepted FSA's banner advertising? What's the difference between them and RAA? They both try to make airline F/O's out of 700 total time and 100 hour multi time pilots.


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I disagree. FlightSafety's banner/advertising is much more professional. I know you are anti-FSI, and all other large schools for that matter, and thats fine- while I am an FSA grad., and really enjoyed it- being a Part 61 instructor, I can at least see where you are coming from. But please at least take a look at a brochure from FSA before you compare them with the smut that RAA puts out.

[cointyro]

The reason I didn't post the name is because I didn't want to make anyone think I was "advertising" for them.

[DE727UPS]

It's true that I'm somewhat anti-big-academy but that's not the point of my post. I try not to get too worked up about it unless it gets to the point of PFT or advertising that makes false claims about the profession or the current state of the industry. As near as I can tell, FSA doesn't do that.
What I want to hear is, what is it about RAA that makes you call their brochure full of smut?

[EatSleepFly]

OK, a few examples:

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Contrary to popular belief, the regional airlines are growing and hiring new pilots every day. Why not become one of them?


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{name deleted} is an airline-training center designed to take students from little or no experience to an Airline Job in as little as 14 months.

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the guaranteed interview that each of our graduates receive! {name deleted}’s four-phase program will get you the requirements and flight time you need to succeed in your new airline career!


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Upon completion of the program, you will have 700 hours total time logged with 100 hours of multi-engine time and a guaranteed interview.

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[EatSleepFly]

Oh yeah...and the fact that they email spam around. Not cool.

[ready2fly]

Seems to me, their plan worked.

Not only are some folks talking about them (good or bad .. doesn't matter), but some will/have actually visit their site.

So, in the end, they're getting their name out there.

As the saying goes "bad press is better than no press at all".

R2F

[DE727UPS]

Okay. I honestly want to understand what it is in those claims that seperates RAA from FSA. In other words, can you honestly say that FSA doesn't make those sorts of claims? Doesn't FSA guarantee interviews with some regionals if you do the right program? Isn't FSA's goal to get you to a regional cockpit with 700/100, if you do the right program? Does not FSA claim to be getting guys hired, even in this economy, if you do the right program? Does not FSA claim that you can go from zero hours to an airline seat in 14 months, if you do that right program?

Maybe the right answer is that FSA makes similar claims to the RAA claims but superior FSA reputation and training leads to the claims being true....I don't know, that's why I'm asking.

[shooter13]

I toured FSA.

They made no claims about bridges to regionals or being in an RJ in 700 hours. They did show me their ASA program but that was when they actually had the ASA program going.

They didn't have any "slick" advertising except for the facilities, which were very nice. Not once did they try to tell me something that would make me think going there would give me an advantage when trying to get hired. They did give me the impression and I believe them that if I go there, I will graduate an extremely well trained pilot.

[EatSleepFly]

FlightSafety Academy

No, I do NOT feel that FSA promises all of these things. But I invite you to peruse their website, and prove me wrong. I don't have time to look through it, as I am at work. I don't want to get into an argument over this- I've graduated, I'm done with my flight training, and frankly, the more people that choose to go the FBO route, the more students I will have- so I could care less one way or the other if RAA, or FSA for that matter- wants to make false claims and screw people over. I only took exception to FSA being compared to RAA because I feel that FSA is a step above the rest. I never said you, or anyone else had to agree.

[DE727UPS]

If you were running a website and you were sensitive about the advertising you would accept...unlike Flying mag and Flight Training mag. Lets say you don't like the claims that some big academies tend to make sometimes and you don't want to be part of the problem of misleading young wannabes about the industry and the career.

Would you accept advertising from anyone who would give you money? Would you accept advertising from FSA but not RAA? How about RAA but not Gulfstream?

Where do you draw the line and why?

[rausda27]

I was never told that I would be guaranteed any interviews if I attended FSA. THe only interview I cared about when I completed the program was for a CFI slot and then I could build my time and when I had 1200-1300 hours with 400-50 multi then I might have a pretty good chance on getting interviewed by an airline. When I was a student there, airlines would show up unaanounced and interview high time CFI for positions with a regional airline but FSA never made that promise to anyone and to this day has never advertised this fact. I think what you are confused about is the ASA program at FSA. This program was offered to FSA grads and they had to interview with ASA BEFORE starting the program and they received a conditional offer of employment from ASA if the interview went well. Upon completion of the program and sim eval, the were then offered a class date with ASA. THis program was run per ASA need ONLY and was not a route many students took.

When I was looking at large flight academies, I was turned on by FSA because they didn't feed you what most others did. They didn't tell me I didn't need a college degree and they gave me no promises, except that I would be well trained. Nothing about 0 time to airlines in 14 months, the industry is in an upswing, etc.

I decided not to go to a large flight school, but FSA gained my respect by not feeding me BS.